Sir Keir Starmer ate my Hamster…..

Larry the cat ate Sir Keir Starmer!

My Hamster Ate It's Way Out Of Sir Keir Starmer!

Keir Starmer and David Lammy made excellent speeches at the UN yesterday. Thought I’d report that one, no one else will.

Lammy’s speech has been mentioned on another thread.

Absolutely agree. I’ve given up listening to radio and tv Starmer bashing.

I think the right wing controlled media are using Johnson’s dead cat strategy to distract people from the things that Labour are actually.achieving. I’ve stopped watching Sky News, which I used to have on all day. Beth Rigby ( who I used to really like) started to annoy me during the election campaign.

missdeke

Although I'm not a fan, I just wish everybody would just leave Starmer and his government alone, forget all this peripheral nonsense for a while and let them try to get on with the job that they have been elected to do for now. He and his ministers have been knocked back since they have taken over governing the country. At least give them some space to try and get on with the job in hand, so much time is being wasted by them having to answer questions about things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things, such as him using someone's house to give his son space to study, if it's all been declared and it's not illegal then they shouldn't have to be wasting time on explaining himself at this point in time. There are quite frankly more important things that require attention.

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MayBee70 remember during lockdown when Sky’s Kay Burley had a birthday party with loads of guests including Beth Rigby? They were found out and were both suspended from TV for 6 months.

Burley in particular still speaks to people on her programmes like she is law abiding and innocent.

For Cossy, you may dispute headlines (& TV Bulletins - more important) about Football tickets (actually VIP boxes), clothes and now school fees, but if you'd like to dispute Labour swiftly alienating millions of voters who got them into power, please do?

Where are the school fees?

vegansrock

Where are the school fees?

In DrWatson's lalaland imagination.

vegansrock

Where are the school fees?

I imagine that DrWatson is referring to the VAT on school fees from January.

Ali08

Larry the cat ate Sir Keir Starmer!

My Hamster Ate It's Way Out Of Sir Keir Starmer!

There was an old cat who ate the PM who ate a hamster who ate the sausages which ate all the freezing pensioners who ate their grandchildren doing their GCSEs who ate ...

And now the old cat's dead!

GrannyGravy13

vegansrock

Where are the school fees?

I imagine that DrWatson is referring to the VAT on school fees from January.

In that case, it will only affect about 7% of the population, few of whom probably voted Labour. Fair game!

Dr Watson. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

They count just the same as any other child in the country.
No more, no less.

ronib

*Dr Watson*. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

Children’s clothing and footwear are VAT free, their schooling should be also.

ronib

*Dr Watson*. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

Not if it's only their parents who think they have special needs. We've just discussed this.

GrannyGravy13

ronib

Dr Watson. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

Children’s clothing and footwear are VAT free, their schooling should be also.

They're perfectly free to accept VAT free schooling.

Best not give the government any more ideas GG13.
Don’t understand why special needs is not better provided for by the State thinking about it all. Why does the private sector have to be involved? First class free State education for all abilities - in my dreams.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

ronib

Dr Watson. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

Children’s clothing and footwear are VAT free, their schooling should be also.

They're perfectly free to accept VAT free schooling.

Choice?

Children should not be made into VAT cash cows for any government.

MissAdventure

They count just the same as any other child in the country.
No more, no less.

No, they don't - not when they haven't been diagnosed.

According to the government, 18% of pupils in England have special needs. There are about 5% of children who have very obvious learning difficulties or physical disabilities, which without any doubt require special provision. Many of the other 13% are in a grey area. They'll be on some kind of spectrum of need and it's not uncommon for parents to think their own children need more special provision than others. I do not accept that all of the remaining 13% need to go to a private school. If the parents think that throwing money at the problem will always solve it, IMO they're deluded. (I speak from having observed it at first hand.)

Growstreet schools and educational psychologists assess special needs? Not parents. Probably parents flag up difficulties but that’s a different story. Parents probably pay for private education when there’s poor support for special needs. Simple.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

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ronib

Dr Watson. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

Children’s clothing and footwear are VAT free, their schooling should be also.

They're perfectly free to accept VAT free schooling.

Choice?

Children should not be made into VAT cash cows for any government.

Exactly! Parents have the choice - but there's no reason why they should be subsidised.

DrWatson

For Cossy, you may dispute headlines (& TV Bulletins - more important) about Football tickets (actually VIP boxes), clothes and now school fees, but if you'd like to dispute Labour swiftly alienating millions of voters who got them into power, please do?

The Trades Unions weren't that happy with them either.
It's not just disgruntled pensioners.

Unions have won a non-binding vote at the Labour Party conference calling on the government to reverse its cuts to winter fuel payments.

The vote had originally been expected on Monday and threatened to overshadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves' speech.

However, in a move the Unite union labelled an "outrage" the vote was shifted to the last day of the conference, when many delegates had left the conference.

I believe Starmer had left by then. Coincidence or not?

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

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ronib

Dr Watson. Please don’t forget pupils with special needs in private education but without an exemption for paying VAT.
Or don’t they count?

Children’s clothing and footwear are VAT free, their schooling should be also.

They're perfectly free to accept VAT free schooling.

Choice?

Children should not be made into VAT cash cows for any government.

Exactly! Parents have the choice - but there's no reason why they should be subsidised.

It could be argued that parents who send their children to fee paying schools and/or use private healthcare are subsidising those using state schools and the NHS.

Along with in all,probability paying higher rates of tax.

Works both ways growstuff