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37 Prisoners Realeased from Prison By Mistake

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Allsorts Thu 26-Sept-24 06:43:43

Just that really, these 37 prisoners released with the others, shouldn't have been. The powers that be are looking for them, would have been easier if they had known where these people were going. Reassuring for the public. You have to wonder how the police and Justice system feel about it.

orly Sun 29-Sept-24 12:43:43

"I think the problem is that this policy was rushed and not properly thought through".

Isn't that the problems with all Labour polices eg Brown selling off half of the UK's gold reserves when the price was at rock bottom in 1999 (co-incidentally and ironically costing the UK £22bn!)
Brown ruining everyone's company pension and the pension industry itself when he stole the Dividend Tax Credit
...the list is endless and continues today with Reeves' policies having consequences that everyone (else) can see

Beckett Sun 29-Sept-24 12:28:13

I think the problem is that this policy was rushed and not properly thought through. If a little more time had been taken the wording could have made it clearer as to which prisoners would be eligible for early release taking into account the time and law they were sentenced under

GrannyGravy13 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:57:11

I was referring to the incident at Manchester Airport

GrannyGravy13 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:56:29

Wyllow3

I felt that it was essential the riots were dealt with quickly and effectively, and they were.

How short our memories are just what it was like during that week.

And Starmer had the courage to take on the rapid spread of the incitement and planning more riots on Social Media as well as some filled with absolute hatred - some giving out home addresses of targets - instead of just sending the police out once a riot had started.

If the PM is that keen to take on violent thugs why are the men who assaulted police officers and broke a female officer’s nose, still walking the streets?

Why haven’t they been charged, despite security cameras and statements?

deedeedum Sun 29-Sept-24 11:52:55

They have located 30 0f them, just looking for 7 now. Under the circumstances, what would you have done

Cateq Sun 29-Sept-24 11:16:28

What concerns me the most is that one of terrorists responsible for 2007 London bombings was released 16 years early. We need to totally rethink the early release of prisoners before the end of their sentences. It’s just another failure to consider the victims and their families

Allira Thu 26-Sept-24 16:47:30

Lisaangel10

Heard on radio that one of those released in error committed a sexual assault very shortly after release.

If any of the released prisoners were guilty of violent crimes their victims must be terrified.

It's no laughing matter nor one for political point-scoring, nor is it about privatisation.

Wyllow3 Thu 26-Sept-24 15:56:59

I felt that it was essential the riots were dealt with quickly and effectively, and they were.

How short our memories are just what it was like during that week.

And Starmer had the courage to take on the rapid spread of the incitement and planning more riots on Social Media as well as some filled with absolute hatred - some giving out home addresses of targets - instead of just sending the police out once a riot had started.

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 15:28:46

My best guess is that Starmer, Gray and senior civil servants would have been very involved in stopping the riots which had suddenly flared up. I remember that it was a government policy to prosecute offenders in record breaking time, followed by prison sentences all to deter further protests. So it worked in a way.
Again showing a lack of final detail about the number of prison places. Still no one is perfect.

vegansrock Thu 26-Sept-24 15:20:06

And Sue Gray was obviously the one to make this error. She was also responsible for prison overcrowding and the years of austerity that led to this situation

Mollygo Thu 26-Sept-24 15:17:39

Iam64
Well I expect you’d like posters to respond that police and the CJS are very cross with Mr Starmer because like everything else that goes wrong, it’s all his fault.
🤣🤣🤣
Only because he appointed Sue Gray.

Wyllow3 Thu 26-Sept-24 15:13:04

Yes

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy43kkw7pn2o

it explains the reason for the error

"The government had said those convicted of offences linked to domestic abuse - including breaching a restraining order - would not be eligible for early release.

However, 37 men's crimes had incorrectly been prosecuted under outdated legislation from 1997.

That meant the system did not recognise they were ineligible for release. It only looked at offences under the Sentencing Act 2020."

it's now been put right but not early enough for the victim!

Nevertheless, if prisons are full, action did have to be taken: not enough care clearly, prisoners with certain offences should either not have been released or should have been subject to greater scrutiny.

vegansrock Thu 26-Sept-24 15:04:54

Obviously Gray and Starmer were there on the day at all those prisons doing the paperwork.
Lammy gave a v good speech at the UN as did Starmer though I don’t expect anyone to comment on that.

Lisaangel10 Thu 26-Sept-24 15:00:58

Heard on radio that one of those released in error committed a sexual assault very shortly after release.

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 12:40:23

At one level yes it was a polished speech but as a friend reminded me recently, you have to keep the end goal in mind. So does this speech bring a closer connection to Russia or not? I couldn’t help look at the fantasy video Russia released with its preferred option of annihilating London as far as Edgware I recall.
Seems to me that from Boris Johnson on, Ukraine has been encouraged to continue and develop the war by the UK. I don’t see this ending well.

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 12:15:29

I do agree that Lammy as foreign secretary would not have been my choice but I did hear a pretty good speech of his recently.

x.com/IanDunt/status/1838952201680519346?t=0s9VSoVDg352ta9Z_Cf13Q&s=19

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 09:17:54

eggplant thought it important to widen the search for the most incompetent Labour government minister for this week anyway.

Cossy Thu 26-Sept-24 09:17:09

eggplant

You do get the feeling the whole country is dissolving before our very eyes.

Obviously everything is the fault of KS, absolutely everything, forever.

😂😂😂

Cossy Thu 26-Sept-24 09:16:28

ronib

I think a bigger meltdown will be caused by Lammy as foreign secretary …. It’s not the start I expected to be fair.

Nor any of us!

eggplant Thu 26-Sept-24 09:15:01

Oh well, at least you're mixing it up a bit today.

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 09:11:52

I think a bigger meltdown will be caused by Lammy as foreign secretary …. It’s not the start I expected to be fair.

eggplant Thu 26-Sept-24 09:08:45

You do get the feeling the whole country is dissolving before our very eyes.

Obviously everything is the fault of KS, absolutely everything, forever.

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 08:56:30

You have to wonder how the police and Justice system feel about it.

Why?
As others have said, I think we know.

Cossy Thu 26-Sept-24 08:55:12

Personally I think our Justice system is a complete mess.

Years of underfunding and shortages of staff, privatisation, lack of consistency in sentencing. Like many other things it’s broken!

This error is unacceptable and doesn’t reflect well (again) on the LP.

They really need to get their s**t together and quickly!

maddyfour Thu 26-Sept-24 08:51:18

Oh dear!