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37 Prisoners Realeased from Prison By Mistake

(61 Posts)
Allsorts Thu 26-Sept-24 06:43:43

Just that really, these 37 prisoners released with the others, shouldn't have been. The powers that be are looking for them, would have been easier if they had known where these people were going. Reassuring for the public. You have to wonder how the police and Justice system feel about it.

nanna8 Thu 26-Sept-24 06:49:41

You wouldn’t read about it ! Dumb and dumber…

Doodledog Thu 26-Sept-24 06:50:49

Unhappy, I think it’s safe to assume grin.

I don’t know the story, but at face value I’d say it’s easy to work out what the reaction of the police and the judiciary is likely to be.

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 07:17:26

The Ministry of Justice confirmed that five prisoners have not yet been returned to jail

This was as of last night.
Maybe they are already back by now?

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 07:21:15

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prisoners-released-government-early-release-scheme-b2618920.html

It looks like it was a policy error. Logged under the wrong legislation so not flagged up.
Just this minute heard on the radio.

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 07:23:31

Posted too soon.
It was Nick Hardwick on the radio.

vegansrock Thu 26-Sept-24 07:36:07

Not a wise move to privatise prisons and the probation service. Wonder when that happened?

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 07:58:51

It seems to have been the way crimes were logged vegansrock - though the changes in probation "pay by results" scheme for example was ludicrous.

Unfortunately I don't think we can blame that in this case!
It's apparently a change in the way crimes are recorded and is probably due to some poor drafting of recent legislation.

Iam64 Thu 26-Sept-24 08:25:06

Well I expect you’d like posters to respond that police and the CJS are very cross with Mr Starmer because like everything else that goes wrong, it’s all his fault

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 08:48:27

Iam64 no it’s Sue Gray’s idea? It would be good if government had someone who could handle little details.

Spinnaker Thu 26-Sept-24 08:49:53

Iam64

Well I expect you’d like posters to respond that police and the CJS are very cross with Mr Starmer because like everything else that goes wrong, it’s all his fault

Well, now you've mentioned 😆 😂

maddyfour Thu 26-Sept-24 08:51:18

Oh dear!

Cossy Thu 26-Sept-24 08:55:12

Personally I think our Justice system is a complete mess.

Years of underfunding and shortages of staff, privatisation, lack of consistency in sentencing. Like many other things it’s broken!

This error is unacceptable and doesn’t reflect well (again) on the LP.

They really need to get their s**t together and quickly!

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 08:56:30

You have to wonder how the police and Justice system feel about it.

Why?
As others have said, I think we know.

eggplant Thu 26-Sept-24 09:08:45

You do get the feeling the whole country is dissolving before our very eyes.

Obviously everything is the fault of KS, absolutely everything, forever.

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 09:11:52

I think a bigger meltdown will be caused by Lammy as foreign secretary …. It’s not the start I expected to be fair.

eggplant Thu 26-Sept-24 09:15:01

Oh well, at least you're mixing it up a bit today.

Cossy Thu 26-Sept-24 09:16:28

ronib

I think a bigger meltdown will be caused by Lammy as foreign secretary …. It’s not the start I expected to be fair.

Nor any of us!

Cossy Thu 26-Sept-24 09:17:09

eggplant

You do get the feeling the whole country is dissolving before our very eyes.

Obviously everything is the fault of KS, absolutely everything, forever.

😂😂😂

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 09:17:54

eggplant thought it important to widen the search for the most incompetent Labour government minister for this week anyway.

NotSpaghetti Thu 26-Sept-24 12:15:29

I do agree that Lammy as foreign secretary would not have been my choice but I did hear a pretty good speech of his recently.

x.com/IanDunt/status/1838952201680519346?t=0s9VSoVDg352ta9Z_Cf13Q&s=19

ronib Thu 26-Sept-24 12:40:23

At one level yes it was a polished speech but as a friend reminded me recently, you have to keep the end goal in mind. So does this speech bring a closer connection to Russia or not? I couldn’t help look at the fantasy video Russia released with its preferred option of annihilating London as far as Edgware I recall.
Seems to me that from Boris Johnson on, Ukraine has been encouraged to continue and develop the war by the UK. I don’t see this ending well.

Lisaangel10 Thu 26-Sept-24 15:00:58

Heard on radio that one of those released in error committed a sexual assault very shortly after release.

vegansrock Thu 26-Sept-24 15:04:54

Obviously Gray and Starmer were there on the day at all those prisons doing the paperwork.
Lammy gave a v good speech at the UN as did Starmer though I don’t expect anyone to comment on that.

Wyllow3 Thu 26-Sept-24 15:13:04

Yes

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy43kkw7pn2o

it explains the reason for the error

"The government had said those convicted of offences linked to domestic abuse - including breaching a restraining order - would not be eligible for early release.

However, 37 men's crimes had incorrectly been prosecuted under outdated legislation from 1997.

That meant the system did not recognise they were ineligible for release. It only looked at offences under the Sentencing Act 2020."

it's now been put right but not early enough for the victim!

Nevertheless, if prisons are full, action did have to be taken: not enough care clearly, prisoners with certain offences should either not have been released or should have been subject to greater scrutiny.