Keir Starmer another scandal?

She didn’t know Keir Starmer would turn out the way he has yet has allegedly been hounded and vilified by the Party he leads ?
Corbyn was not allowed to stand as a Labour Party candidate,
Abbott did and is , I think, a Labour Party member of Parliament

RD had no idea that KS would turn out the way he has so far. How could anyone have guessed it? Why doesn’t he resign? RD seems to be a conscientious and well regarded mp - KS is carving out his own history. There’s no problem with independent MPs like Jeremy Corbyn, Rebecca Long Bailey, Diane A etc. The problem is with the pm.

Quote Freya5 Sun 29-Sep-24 07:20:43
Cossy
MayBee70
She obviously never got on with Keir and knew they wouldn’t work well together. Perhaps she should have stood as an independent?
I don’t have any strong feelings about her one way or the other, however I don’t agree with MPs from any party crossing the floor, particularly so close after a GE.

I think the rules should change and a by-election held.
Why ,because it suits your narrative. This woman was hounded and vilified by the Labour Party. A disgusting lot , who care not one jot about bullying women.
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Yet chose to stand as a Labour Party Candidate!

Your narrative Freya

Cossy

MayBee70

She obviously never got on with Keir and knew they wouldn’t work well together. Perhaps she should have stood as an independent?

I don’t have any strong feelings about her one way or the other, however I don’t agree with MPs from any party crossing the floor, particularly so close after a GE.

I think the rules should change and a by-election held.

Why ,because it suits your narrative. This woman was hounded and vilified by the Labour Party. A disgusting lot , who care not one jot about bullying women.

Her timing must pleased the Conservative Party, their party conference this week .

She didn’t support the Labour Party Leader yet stood as a Labour Party Candidate, I do not think she is brave but can certainly understand why Conservative Party supporters think so.

Doodledog The attacks on Liz Truss take some beating?
Why should MPs not call out in a parliamentary democracy? I think RD has made some very valid points in her resignation letter. KS has every opportunity to respond. So what is the next move?

MayBee70

Whatever people think of Labour and its leader, what this country needs now is a period of stability. Why are people trying to prevent that? Or am I being paranoid?? People calling for a leadership challenge! Have people just got used to changing PM every 5 minutes and a cabinet that’s a game of musical chairs like it’s the norm? In fact wtf is going on?

It really does feel as though the attacks are orchestrated. I’ve never known anything like it before.

Get rid of him. He is a disgrace and he will never be respected. Best to do it quickly and lethally than let it fester.

Whatever people think of Labour and its leader, what this country needs now is a period of stability. Why are people trying to prevent that? Or am I being paranoid?? People calling for a leadership challenge! Have people just got used to changing PM every 5 minutes and a cabinet that’s a game of musical chairs like it’s the norm? In fact wtf is going on?

People did choose her as the Labour candidate, and when there is 5 years ahead I think it should be a by election. If she's liked and respected she may well get in as an Independent.

Wyllow3

He's done some things I'm not happy with, but the barrage of twisted half truths and speculation and sheer lies on MSM and SM completely appall me.

This is how I feel. I don't think he's got everything right, but I also think that even if he had there would have been people/media sniping and twisting everything he said or did to make political capital - some outright nasty and others pretending to be even-handed. I peeped into X earlier (I don't usually) and was shocked. Even the bitterness on GN seemed tame by comparison.

It's hard to know what to think - the nastiness has been so overdone that sensible criticism is more difficult to spot.

Regarding RD - I think she was very badly treated over her trans views, and I'm sad that she's not going to be able to fight for women's rights from within the LP; but if she doesn't feel that she can stay, then of course she should resign. I feel bad for people who voted for her to represent them within the LP though - the election was less than three months ago. She might have done better by her constituents to give it longer, but it's her decision.

He's done some things I'm not happy with, but the barrage of twisted half truths and speculation and sheer lies on MSM and SM completely appall me.

..before the Labour gathering in Liverpool – originally billed as a chance to celebrate its return to power after 14 years – Starmer’s ratings had collapsed 45 points since July to -26 by last weekend (with 24% approving of the job he was doing, against 50% who disapproved). Conference week, however, saw a further drop of four points to -30

Opinion poll of public don't seem to be keen on him either. He experienced the opposite of a bounce at the conference.

I've read about that, Anniebach, all sounds very bizarre. Something about his past private life I believe. Which I'm not remotely interested in.

I've also seen loads of posts saying he'll be resigning on Tuesday, but I can't see that happening either

Exciting news for Starmer critics, his sexuality is now main topic

She had disagreements with Starmer before the election, why
stand for a party one doesn’t agree with the leader ,
Thinking more on this and reading posts again, brave or cunning ?

Cossy.

Media and social media. X, Insta, Tiktok ... everywhere you want to look.

He really is being annihilated online.

MayBee70

She obviously never got on with Keir and knew they wouldn’t work well together. Perhaps she should have stood as an independent?

I don’t have any strong feelings about her one way or the other, however I don’t agree with MPs from any party crossing the floor, particularly so close after a GE.

I think the rules should change and a by-election held.

Definitely Cossy

She obviously never got on with Keir and knew they wouldn’t work well together. Perhaps she should have stood as an independent?

Sarnia

He is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?

I’d say both the media and some GNs are the gift which keeps on giving!

GrannyGravy13

Rosie Duffield 👏👏👏

I agree GrannyGravey. She has followed her conscience and that is commendable.

Mae13, me too.

Yes that took courage but not the reason she is being applauded for here

I view her as brave due to her stance on womens rights, and support of single sex spaces, she spoke up at a time when few if any MPs would, she faced awful online abuse because of it.