Keir Starmer another scandal?

People would be foolish not to be wary of Starmer.
Mendacious, greedy, disloyal and actually at present rather a laughing stock, a dangerous thing for a man of his temperament.
Not the upright pious puritan he presented himself as in opposition.
I have no intention of justifying my comments; my opinion.
We shall see.

Rekarie

Nobody is scared of Keir.

What's happened to the first 100 days thread?

I hope Whitewavemark is okay actually, she’s a regular poster and hasn’t been on at all for a little while.

eggplant

sharon103

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there something like this with Kier Starmer when he was head of CPS and Jimmy Saville?

I will correct you. It has been proven to be untrue.

There you go.

Even Johnson’s fellow MP’s were angry with him for making that unfounded allegation in parliament. Sadly people forget that he did it and also choose to ignore the fact that it has been proved to be untrue. If only people were so quick to point out the work he did regarding N Ireland. But that doesn’t make for a sordid gutter press headlining story, does it?

After Boris was endorsed by Trump, Keir tweeted: “An endorsement from Donald Trump tells you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Boris Johnson’s politics and why he isn’t fit to be Prime Minister.”

And Lammy tweeted about Trump in a most unflattering way.

And who spent 2 hours with Trump yesterday?

Keir and Lammy

The thing is, people aren't raking things up. These comments are so easy to find. Like Keir, in May promising fuel prices wouldn't rise.

This is the world we live in now. Social media. There's no escape.

Nobody is scared of Keir.

What's happened to the first 100 days thread?

MaizieD

I just KNEW days ago that he'd get the blame for this the minute I read that he was head of the CPS at the time.
I doubt if he was any more responsible for Al Fayed not being prosecuted than he was for Saville.

But please don't let that thought spoil your enjoyment.

I knew that too. Boris Johnson was guilty of suggesting he covered up the Jimmy Savile and although proved wrong people are still claiming this as fact on X

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/41068-one-five-believe-pms-jimmy-savile-allegations-agai

They are doing the same about the Al Fayed case.

Eggplant - well said.

biglouis

How much more bad publicity can this man take?

Someone must be very scared of him to keep circulating repeats of old disproved slurs, new "scandals" about routine things that had been dealt with by others before they reached his desk, and practices that were commonplace by all previous PMs. The dirty-works departments and rumour-mongers are working overtime - pity they weren't on such high alert while millions were being squirrelled away by chums of those in high places.

eggplant

Mamie

The real shock would be if the pop-up anti-Starmer posters could spell Keir.....

Naughty. Perhaps the pop ups are bots. And can't spell.

You'd think they could get spelling bots.

Well if he was personally involved in every decision about every case he must be responsible. On the other hand as the head of the organisation I doubt he even saw papers on Al Fayed or Saville.

Some anti Labour people are really scraping the barrel, man attends football match where he has bought a ticket, family move into a friends flat when their house is subject to paparazzi and Gaza protestors and on and on it goes.

Mamie

The real shock would be if the pop-up anti-Starmer posters could spell Keir.....

Naughty. Perhaps the pop ups are bots. And can't spell.

Mamie

The real shock would be if the pop-up anti-Starmer posters could spell Keir.....

👏👏👏

I blame the Tories for all the suspicion. The scandals and lies leave a long shadow and the new government are tainted by it.

LauraNorderr

Casdon

Nope, again, no scandal. Next it will be ‘Shock Horror Keir Starmer only cuts his toenails once a month!’ Roll on some actual, real news.

The real scandal will be when we find out where the clippings are buried.

Under the patio?

Starmer has said he was not involved in the case involving Al Fayed.

Some of you are Daily Mailing again.

The real shock would be if the pop-up anti-Starmer posters could spell Keir.....

Casdon

Nope, again, no scandal. Next it will be ‘Shock Horror Keir Starmer only cuts his toenails once a month!’ Roll on some actual, real news.

The real scandal will be when we find out where the clippings are buried.

Nope, again, no scandal. Next it will be ‘Shock Horror Keir Starmer only cuts his toenails once a month!’ Roll on some actual, real news.

MaizieD

I just KNEW days ago that he'd get the blame for this the minute I read that he was head of the CPS at the time.
I doubt if he was any more responsible for Al Fayed not being prosecuted than he was for Saville.

But please don't let that thought spoil your enjoyment.

This one human being is clearly totally responsible for absolutely everything that goes wrong, everywhere.

Whereas BJ who lied and lied while people died and couldn't attend funerals was an honourable man.

Sorted!

sharon103

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there something like this with Kier Starmer when he was head of CPS and Jimmy Saville?

I will correct you. It has been proven to be untrue.

There you go.

To be fair how much part does the head of any organisation play in making the day to day decisions that the organisation/company has to make?

It is very easy to say afterwards when the fat really hits the fan and someone famous is found to be truly steeped in crime, like Saville, and, possibly, Al Fayed.

But we are a country that prides itself on the rule of law - and that means we have high and clear standards about the quality of evidence that is needed to convict someone and it does neither the reputation of our legal system, nor the people accused, whether they are famous or not, if they get taken to court on evidence that is not sufficient to secure a conviction.

Rumour and stories and a few witnesses, who may at the last minute change their mind about giving evidence, for a number of reasons including fear of reprisals or, alternatively, being bought off, can make cases like this very difficult to bring to court, so failing to take a case to court in the first place, however damning LATER evidence may be is no sign that the first case was caused by failure by the CPS.

fullfact.org/online/keir-starmer-prosecute-jimmy-savile/

Full Fact report regarding DPP and Savile case.

He is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?

Thanks for the facts, Wyllow.

It won't make any difference though...🙄