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Well Done Rosie Duffield

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Sparklefizz Sat 28-Sept-24 20:32:03

A woman of integrity.

Rosie51 Sun 29-Sept-24 12:04:13

I've copied this extract from a post of mine on another thread.

I note not one single person has made any comment on Starmer launching his election campaign in Kent and not inviting the ONLY elected Labour MP in the county. Could he have made it any clearer that RD was persona non grata as far as he was concerned? He did however, just a few weeks earlier, make a great show of being photographed welcoming Natalie Elphicke (MP for Dover) to the party after she defected from the Conservatives to cross the floor, even though it was known she would stand down at the next election. Of course at that time nobody knew just two weeks later Sunak would declare that intention.

Starmer and many other Labour MPs have treated RD atrociously. Presumably the CLP could have deselected her if they felt she was such a terrible MP?

LizzieDrip Sun 29-Sept-24 11:56:12

Absolutely Galaxy. It’s a viewpoint … just as RD’s letter is a viewpoint. Duffield’s resignation letter is no more ‘objective’ than that article.

We should therefore be no more ‘cautious’ about one than the other.

We each make our own decisions about the viewpoints that resonate with us as individuals. You have your view; I have mine🤷‍♀️

ronib Sun 29-Sept-24 11:56:08

Jonathan Ashworth I think is being touted for communications? But there’s a limit to what one person can do….

GrannyGravy13 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:51:02

Sorry posted to soon.

Where are their advisors, what are their press officers actually doing?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:49:36

Exactly Galaxy

I think both the Labour Party and it’s supporters were despite 14 years to prepare were badly prepared for Government.

They must have realised that after pulling the Conservative up at every opportunity (and rightly so) that they would be under the microscope now.

The PR is abysmal.

PuddyCat Sun 29-Sept-24 11:49:16

Is it honourable to stand as a Labour Party candidate then resign as a Labour Party MP less than 3 months later?

Let's turn that around: Is it honourable to stay with a political party once you've discovered that they're as dishonest, grasping and destructive as the party they succeeded and who they spent 14 criticising for their dishonesty, greed and destruction? Personally I'd think it shows a level of integrity that hasn't been seen by any politician, of any persuasion, for a very long time. Interesting that what some see as integrity, others see as holier than thou.

Galaxy Sun 29-Sept-24 11:40:27

For further reference please google julie wassmer (TV producer) on Twitter who authored that article. She appears obsessed with RD and of course is retweeting activists such as India Willougby (lots of deeply homophobic views). I would be very cautious about the objectivity of that article. As I say I could find numerous tweets which say similar about Wes Streeting because if his stance on the gender issue.

Wyllow3 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:40:05

I agree with you in many ways AGAA4 but believe the Labour Party has to fight its battles within the party by re-forming policies where we feel they are wrong, and that within 3 months of a new government thats where the battles belong.

What is her actual standing amongst Labour backbenchers? We might find out in coming days.

Nightsky2 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:38:03

Well done Rosie Duffield.👏👏

dragonfly46 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:37:47

Maybe a need is being fed here but the need is there to express that many of us do not agree with what the Labour government are doing. Taking money for clothing etc are minor things. There are more important policies at play here.

They are not a party for the elderly quite clearly. Kier Starmer actually said in his manifesto that they are a party for the workers. Taking away the winter fuel allowance is just a small part of it.
Pensioners have no powers and until I can see provision being made for care of the elderly I cannot support the Labour government.

Wyllow3 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:33:50

Correct reference
whitstableviews.com/2024/06/15/the-winds-of-electoral-change/

AGAA4 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:33:24

Starmer expressed himself very badly. That's another way of saying it I suppose. All in all and mainly because he has accepted gifts for clothes and glasses when people are worrying about fuel bills I am very disappointed in Starmer and I am not supporter of the Tories.

Wyllow3 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:33:08

Does she really?
whitstableviews.com/2024/06/15/the-winds-of-electoral-change/

Nonnato2 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:31:09

An excellent and honest MP that sticks to her principles. I hope many more will follow.

Anniebach Sun 29-Sept-24 11:29:59

Feeding a need

Cossy Sun 29-Sept-24 11:26:28

AGAA4

Cossy yes the country is in a mess and KS has been handed a poison chalice but he is not endearing himself to the people by accepting freebies when many are struggling. The fact that he wouldn't say what a woman is speaks volumes too.

I’ll be honest, and speak as a woman, I completely support women’s safe places, but I’m utterly bored with hearing “Starmer doesn’t know what a woman us” if you said “Starmer expressed himself very badly and didn’t explain himself” I’d almost agree, but frankly it’s boring and tedious hearing this over and over and it really does have little bearing on anything.

Cossy Sun 29-Sept-24 11:23:09

Mt61

Cossy- & government before that! Who took us into a war we did not need to be in, on the bases of lies

I’m well aware of Blair and his actions and did not support this.

maddyfour Sun 29-Sept-24 11:20:15

Galaxy

No it's pointless to you. That's different to it being pointless.

Absolutely, only pointless to those who disagree with her actions. It’s clear from this thread that many people feel that she has stood by her principles.
Not everyone does.

Galaxy Sun 29-Sept-24 11:15:33

Yes and they are all the things that people who complain about Rosie Duffields views would describe as transphobic. So for those saying that people have in the past had 'concerns' about her views, well they are now the views of the labour party.

Galaxy Sun 29-Sept-24 11:13:14

As I said who knows but I wouldnt be guided by that letter.
As I say I could if I wanted to I could produce numerous tweets (from the left) calling Wes Streeting horrific names, that doesnt mean they are accurate.

Wyllow3 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:08:58

Galaxy

I have read it. It's as I would have expected and not in anyway a concern to me. I actually have no idea if she is a good constituency MP or not but I certainly wouldnt be guided by that letter. Those slurs 'transphobic' and 'stirring up the claims of antisemitism against Corbyn' have been claims from the left for a very long time.
Oh and most of the views that RD held and holds on the gender issues are now labour party policy. You should see what people call Wes Streeting on the issue.

"Oh and most of the views that RD held and holds on the gender issues are now labour party policy."

Yes.

As in L party policy now:

Maintenance of single-sex exceptions in facilities

Implementation of the Cass Review recommendations

No return to previous gender self-identification policy

Omission of any reference to removing the spousal exit clause

Focus on ending male violence against women and girls

Wyllow3 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:06:10

It would appear from the article Lizzie alludes to she has been anything but "hard working" locally.

Galaxy Sun 29-Sept-24 11:02:55

I have read it. It's as I would have expected and not in anyway a concern to me. I actually have no idea if she is a good constituency MP or not but I certainly wouldnt be guided by that letter. Those slurs 'transphobic' and 'stirring up the claims of antisemitism against Corbyn' have been claims from the left for a very long time.
Oh and most of the views that RD held and holds on the gender issues are now labour party policy. You should see what people call Wes Streeting on the issue.

Visgir1 Sun 29-Sept-24 11:00:18

It was interesting what she said to LK this morning, I also thought she looked upset. She is brave, but she was right someone had to make a stand, for the hard working Back benchers.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 29-Sept-24 10:56:56

I have read both.