Well Done Rosie Duffield

No surprise there

Support and many column inches from the right wing MSM - a deafening silence from the Labour Left.

Anniebach

Quote Rosie51 Mon 30-Sep-24 17:45:50
Trueloveways
Wasn’t she known as the Labour party’s Dominic Cummings, regarding lockdown rules.
I would have thought that title fitted Stephen Kinnock who with his wife drove a 300 mile round trip to sing Happy Birthday to his dad and bring some essential supplies. Cummings drove all the way to Durham from London a distance almost equal to Stephen's round trip. Rosie entertained her married lover in her accommodation. Of the three only Rosie admitted guilt and took any punishment.

Again ? Stephen and Helle drove from Wales to London to see his parents, Neil had chosen to nurse Glynis at home, Stephen
put a photograph on SM , showing them sitting in the font garden he had taken two chairs with him , he said they had sung Happy Birthday to Neil, they took essential supplies , Rachel Kinnock had taken food the day before. The Police would not have know but Stephen was honest about it, he was not charged. Many people are understanding about dementia.

Anniebach, I am understanding about dementia, my friend has just lost her husband to Lewy Body dementia and that was horrible to witness. It's an awful disease, both for the sufferer and all who love them. During the lockdown I don't remember there being an edict to the public that lockdown regulations didn't apply if you wanted to break them to visit someone with dementia. Many, many people broke their hearts keeping to the rules and not seeing loved ones in varying stages of illness and dying during lockdown, not everybody put themselves above the rules. I thought that was our criticism of that shambles in number 10, that they didn't keep the rules the rest of us did?
I think you're being very selective and quite offensive about this.

Stephen's initial tweet
Dad turned 78 today. Incredible, but true.
@HelleThorning_S
and I took a couple of chairs over, and sat in their front garden for a socially distanced celebration. As you do 🙂 Happy birthday, mate 🍰 🎁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

followed by this one when South Wales police reminded him it was essential travel only and birthdays don't qualify

I felt that this was essential travel as I had to deliver some necessary supplies to my parents. I stayed long enough to sing ‘happy birthday’ to Dad, and then I was off. All the best, Stephen.

No mention of dementia being the reason for the visit at all.

It was in the manifesto though ronib, cloaked but there. There was an undertaking to retain the triple lock for the state pension and a specific warning that Labour “will not tolerate fraud or waste anywhere, whether in social security or the excessive use of consultants”.
As you say, it’s too late for that now anyway, but there was definitely no commitment to keep WFA contained in the manifesto - it was in fact very light on detail regarding welfare payments of any kind.

Casdon Also a free vote on WFA pensioners? Too late though for that one.

The tactic of not directly answering other peoples questions to you, but asking them further questions.
The answer you just gave wasn’t to the question either, but I guess could be one way forward. Perhaps there should be a free vote on whether all gifts ns donations to parties and individuals should be stopped. It will be great fun, like watching turkeys voting for Christmas.

Casdon well yes it is definitely time for change to coin a phrase. Obviously if a policy change is not contained in the party manifesto then each mp should be allowed a free vote. Simple solution.

Casdon my tactics?

ronib

Casdon 8653 majority in the last election.Wes Streeting was it 500 majority votes? Oh really ….

ronib your skills in diversionary tactics require more work. Shall we get back to my post of 15.59 so you can tell us what you think about all MPs standing as independents?

Quote Rosie51 Mon 30-Sep-24 17:45:50
Trueloveways
Wasn’t she known as the Labour party’s Dominic Cummings, regarding lockdown rules.
I would have thought that title fitted Stephen Kinnock who with his wife drove a 300 mile round trip to sing Happy Birthday to his dad and bring some essential supplies. Cummings drove all the way to Durham from London a distance almost equal to Stephen's round trip. Rosie entertained her married lover in her accommodation. Of the three only Rosie admitted guilt and took any punishment.

Again ? Stephen and Helle drove from Wales to London to see his parents, Neil had chosen to nurse Glynis at home, Stephen
put a photograph on SM , showing them sitting in the font garden he had taken two chairs with him , he said they had sung Happy Birthday to Neil, they took essential supplies , Rachel Kinnock had taken food the day before. The Police would not have know but Stephen was honest about it, he was not charged. Many people are understanding about dementia.

Casdon 8653 majority in the last election.Wes Streeting was it 500 majority votes? Oh really ….

Spencer2009

Read her letter yesterday agree with everything she said

news.sky.com/story/rosie-duffields-resignation-letter-in-full-13224368

Look at the attachment ronib, that’s why I posted it.

Casdon how much of a numerical majority?

I was responding to eazybee ronib, as she omitted to mention that RD’s vote share had dropped since the previous election. You have to try take a balanced view of her, she is not universally absolved of her somewhat chequered past because she has done one thing you agree with. I think this move is much more of a welcome surprise to some of you than it is a shock to people who have followed her.

Trueloveways

Wasn’t she known as the Labour party’s Dominic Cummings, regarding lockdown rules.

I would have thought that title fitted Stephen Kinnock who with his wife drove a 300 mile round trip to sing Happy Birthday to his dad and bring some essential supplies. Cummings drove all the way to Durham from London a distance almost equal to Stephen's round trip. Rosie entertained her married lover in her accommodation. Of the three only Rosie admitted guilt and took any punishment.

Trueloveways surely not Dominic Cummings. Much more Matt Hancock and a few others.

I have recently read "Head North" by Andy Burnham and Steve Rotheram. One of their suggestions for improving inequality is to remove the whip system.

Casdon what point are you trying to make? We had a very low turnout for the last election. RD got elected with a good majority.

Read her letter yesterday agree with everything she said

Wasn’t she known as the Labour party’s Dominic Cummings, regarding lockdown rules.

eazybee

Rosie Duffield's views were well known within the Labour Party and outside when she stood for the third time and her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.
Yes Maddyfour I think I agree with you. I thought it was shocking of Starmer to suspend the whip for six months for the seven Labour MPs who voted according to their conscience concerning the cap on child benefit. It is blind allegiance to the Party beliefs which allows the growth of dictatorships.

eazybee 2024 election result
19,531votes
41.4%of vote
-7.2% Change in vote percentage since last election

members.parliament.uk/member/4616/electionresult

Quote eazybee Mon 30-Sep-24 16:48:16
Rosie Duffield's views were well known within the Labour Party and outside when she stood for the third time and her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.
Yes Maddyfour I think I agree with you. I thought it was shocking of Starmer to suspend the whip for six months for the seven Labour MPs who voted according to their conscience concerning the cap on child benefit. It is blind allegiance to the Party beliefs which allows the growth of dictatorships.

Then every vote should be according to conscience?

maddyfour

^unless you feel that it’s acceptable for all MPs to free vote on every issue with no party accountability ^

Yes, I do.
I don't agree with the whipping system actually.

So there would be 650 independent MPs, how do you envisage that working? How would these individuals be accountable to their electorate if there was no party structure? How would decisions be reached? Who would lead? Is there anywhere in the world that operates such a system?

Rosie Duffield's views were well known within the Labour Party and outside when she stood for the third time and her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.
Yes Maddyfour I think I agree with you. I thought it was shocking of Starmer to suspend the whip for six months for the seven Labour MPs who voted according to their conscience concerning the cap on child benefit. It is blind allegiance to the Party beliefs which allows the growth of dictatorships.