Workers to keep tips.

WelwynWitch3

We found out that tips included in bill are taxed so we always gave a tip directly to waitress.

All tips are potentially taxable and should be declared.

We found out that tips included in bill are taxed so we always gave a tip directly to waitress.

When I was 18 I worked for 5 days at Royal Ascot in champagne bar, serving drinks and snacks.
My wages were £14 for the week and I took home £42 in tips on top. Some of the punters never left the bar or saw a horse 🐎 run.
According to an inflation calculator that would be £148/ £444 today.

I have run catering outlets for 40 years and never have I kept the tips.
They were pooled by a senior member of staff. I would work out their hour for the period in question usually every 6 weeks and divide the tips between ALL staff according to hours worked over that period. I would pack them too in separate pay packet but the senior member of staff would distribute them and a list would go up in the staff room indicating who had what and why. If the boss pays out the tips they have to be taxed. It is up to the staff to declare their tips that way. Always worked well for us and the staff looked forward to their 6 weekly pay out. Everyone trusted each other to pool the tips and the cleaning staff were delighted to be included. One job relies on another in the catering trade.

Two of us in the restaurant I worked in as a teenager got huge tips. We were also "watched like a hawk" when clearing the tables - but it was just to make sure that the tip went into the pot. 🙄 It always did - but I was disappointed that what I took home was a relatively small fraction of what our diners contributed.

But prices will go up to replace what the business looses

When I was a student I worked in a little tea room/ restaurant. We all pooled our tips & shared them equally at the end of the week. However, I had attracted the attention of man who worked at a very famous race track near by and he would leave a crisp £20 note for me after every service! My co-workers would watch me serve his table (tittering) while I squirmed with embarrassment. Happy days, in a simpler world. when pooling tips was the norm. Ps he looked like Roy Orbison !😎

It was like this back in the 1980's when I worked in restaurants, the pay was pittance but I earned more than double in tips

A friend's son worked in a restaurant and said that tips were also shared with kitchen staff. Those who had been there longest got the most, so as a newcomer he got virtually none.

Years ago I worked on reception in a small, family owned hotel. All tips went into a jar and were shared out equally at the end of the week. Sometimes I was tipped personally. I had to put it in the jar but the owner wouldn’t let me have a share as I wasn’t serving staff!

When we had a holiday in Japan 20 years ago our Japanese tour guide said that we should tip no-one as they would feel humiliated. No idea if that’s still the same.

It's still not perfect though as tips will not be paid out until the end of the following month. I hate the "service charge" thing as we tend to overlook it and still tip in cash which is annoying when you realise you've double tipped. We always pay the bill on a card but tip separately in cash.

Sorry rafichagran I was sort of being "funny". I know that in proper restaurants the chef gets paid more than the waiting staff who rely very much on tips. I was making a 'joke' (not successfully!). NotSpaghetti has said it better, at McDonalds nobody tips the server who assembles your order nor the 'chef' who cooked it, who will both be on very similar pay.

Thanks for the explanation of what plate money is. I'd never heard that before.

Yes, rafichagran, I thought this yesterday. People don't usually tip at McDonald's I'd assume.

The waiting staff are the ones that should definitely have the bulk of the tips as they make or break a meal.

Of course the new regulations will apply to lots of people in the service industry. I assume most hairdressers are self employed but cleaners may be part of a company.

Rosie I don't understand what you are stating. Where I worked the Chef was paid a higher hourly rate than the waiting staff. Plate money was what the waiting staff gave to the Chef at the end of the night. It was £2 when I was waiting tables a very long time ago. If there was three waiting staff he got a extra £6.00
I worked for a restaurant chain two nights a week, I was quick efficient and polite, I made good tips and one night made over £30 in tips, this was over 35 years ago, when people tipped in cash. In fact I made so much money in tips the chain I worked rang me and said I had not collected six weeks wages. I would not do that work now though it is hard going and I would not have the patience.

rafichagran

MaizieD

Tips have always been inherently unfair. Who leaves a tip for the chef who cooked the wonderful meal you have just enjoyed?

I'd rather that the whole system of tipping and 'service charges' was abolished and all the staff were just paid a decent wage.

When the children were young I used to wait tables in the evening. We used to give the Chefs plate money.
The chefs and bar staff were paid more than us and the tips made up our wages.

I have no idea what 'plate money' means, but anywhere the chef was on the same lowly wages as the wait staff, it's not the sort of establishment where tipping would be the norm!

MaizieD

Tips have always been inherently unfair. Who leaves a tip for the chef who cooked the wonderful meal you have just enjoyed?

I'd rather that the whole system of tipping and 'service charges' was abolished and all the staff were just paid a decent wage.

When the children were young I used to wait tables in the evening. We used to give the Chefs plate money.
The chefs and bar staff were paid more than us and the tips made up our wages.

Casdonyes most definitely.

I don’t know anything about the MP ronib, but it’s the workers who lost out for so long, isn’t it?

Casdon if it’s taken 17 years to get tips legislation that does count as quite an achievement for the poor mp who later lost his seat. He did push for it. Also for the local hospital soon to be put on hold again by the ever fragrant Rachael Reeves, one can guess.

I do know this doesn't happen.

When I was a waitresses many summers I resented sharing tips with anyone!

Just saying.

When I tip I'm not really wanting to tip the kitchen as I'm tipping service and not the food.
I would prefer it went to my waitress/waiter.

When I worked in a restaurant many years ago tips were pooled and shared between all staff . My DS had the same when he worked in pub with food .

It’s been on the cards since 2007. It’s not exactly an outstanding victory, as it’s taken 17 years to get to this point of giving workers what customers always intended to be for them.

Ex MP