Real concern - New white supremacist group in UK

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eggplant
Those who feel ignored, what would they like to say?
As Tommy said: Hear me, See me.
I volunteer with young women who live on run down social housing estates. They feel forgotten, and ignored.“

I get that, but what do they actually want?

What would they like to say and do?

eggplant

Those who feel ignored, what would they like to say?

As Tommy said: Hear me, See me.
I volunteer with young women who live on run down social housing estates. They feel forgotten, and ignored.

I live opposite a large senior school and have noticed that the children seem to be going to and from school in their ethnic groups.

More noticeable around the High Road, Wimpy, tea and coffee shops at weekends.

nanna8

When my husband worked in Singapore he said there was a lot of racism between Malaysian and Chinese people. Really noticeable. It is not confined to one race.

It certainly is not.

But now I notice that the teenagers have segregated themselves - they aren't mixing .

"White" teenagers?

When my husband worked in Singapore he said there was a lot of racism between Malaysian and Chinese people. Really noticeable. It is not confined to one race.

Racism in all its shape and form is always going to raise its ugly head in any society at any time .

Antisemitism has existed in the UK since the 13th century in York .
If these young men have parents with racist views their judgement will be influenced by them .

Last week I travelled into an area which is considered dangerous and not frequented by any of my white neighbours .
I encountered it on the bus against me .
Nothing dramatic happened .
I told my black friends and they said that they've noticed that there is an anti white feeling .
But they all experience racism against them on a regular basis .
You can't change the colour of your skin and believe me it feels horrible .
Yesterday out shopping an Asian man accidentally barged into my flowers snapping some heads off .
The guy next to me said that it was due to his being " coloured".
Of course not !
He then began to rant about our country becoming third world due to emigration .

I'm slowly watching racism increasing in my area , which is considered nice , middle class and white .
When I went to school we mixed together without a problem .
My friends were Asian , African , Jewish and Arab .
But now I notice that the teenagers have segregated themselves - they aren't mixing .

And that's how it starts .

I think there is a feeling that the indigenous people are being neglected. Which,in some instances, is probably true.

white supremacy groups, but prob most countries in Europe do

Across Europe it is younger voters who are shifting to the right. Let us remember that much of their political ^knowledge" is gained from social media and sites like TikTok et al. I believe that young far-right voters will shape European politics for years, if not decades, to come.

Here in UK time will show whether the shock popular performance of the Reform Party was an outburst of protest voting or the beginning of a seismic shift in the country’s politics, as voters become increasingly disenchanted with mainstream political parties.

I read somewhere that Denmark have a problem with white supremacy groups, but prob most countries in Europe do.

Those who feel ignored, what would they like to say?

Cossy

biglouis

If these groups are "coming out of the woodwork" then there is a reason for it. Some people are not finding a voice in the so called mainstream political parties and are sick of being drowned out by the woke brigade and the neo liberals. The label "racism" has been weaponised to deter all adult discussion on immigration and asylum seekers.

Sorry, but that’s a nonsense, as is using the word “woke”, in my humble opinion.

If you feel that there are people who are not being listened to, and to some extent I do agree here, there are much better ways to get one’s voice heard.

The very fact that they are only targeting young men, in the same way as Andrew state, is also a worry, especially for those of us with daughters or grand daughters.

I think it is quite far from being a nonsense.

^If you feel that there are people who are not being listened to, and to some extent I do agree here, there are much better ways to get one’s voice heard.
^

The whole subject has been debated endlessly, everywhere. Not even just in the UK.
What has changed in the last 10 years?

Sounds horrible.
What’s the point of them?
Do they have an objective?

Its a strange thing this sense of being aggrieved. Trump seems to use it a lot.

I see one such person several times a week. He is a solicitor opposite where I volunteer.

biglouis

If these groups are "coming out of the woodwork" then there is a reason for it. Some people are not finding a voice in the so called mainstream political parties and are sick of being drowned out by the woke brigade and the neo liberals. The label "racism" has been weaponised to deter all adult discussion on immigration and asylum seekers.

I agree, and I also agree with *Cossy that young adults should be taught how the world works; I know my daughter weren't at school, and if I said anything, it was, 'ugh, no it's boring'!

However, ever thought that all this may be deliberate? In fact, everything that has happened in the last 4 years?

Lets take immigration ...
There are 2 types of migrant.
1 - families including women & children that have paid the smuggling gangs to be crammed into a dodgy dinghy and no life jackets are drowning in the Channel
2 - MEN ONLY, in better boats, not crammed in, wearing bright orange matching life jackets, that our Navy/Coastguard/Border Force/RNLI and the new Border Security Command seem unable to see using Radar, drones, binoculars or even the naked eye? They cannot STOP THE BOATS because they are bringing them in!

Deliberate policy of the UN, 'Replacement Migration'. It's been planned for decades ...

www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/unpd-egm_200010_un_2001_replacementmigration.pdf

When I was at school I recall a teacher telling us he expected by the time we his classroom had grown into old people that the world would be full of coffee coloured people. His idealism stuck with me but I soon realised the world is full of rascists. That he was probably quite wrong.

Wyllow3

But biglouis, what contact have these young men ever had with mainstream politics or even knowledge of? Or a working knowledge of our political system? Or have they just grown up as many do, not knowing what an MP does, or even a local councillor does? Or bothered to register to vote? Or understand issues to do with women and domestic violence, which is so prevalent?

Also I meant Andrew Tate (Flipping auto correct)

But biglouis, what contact have these young men ever had with mainstream politics or even knowledge of? Or a working knowledge of our political system? Or have they just grown up as many do, not knowing what an MP does, or even a local councillor does? Or bothered to register to vote? Or understand issues to do with women and domestic violence, which is so prevalent?

biglouis

If these groups are "coming out of the woodwork" then there is a reason for it. Some people are not finding a voice in the so called mainstream political parties and are sick of being drowned out by the woke brigade and the neo liberals. The label "racism" has been weaponised to deter all adult discussion on immigration and asylum seekers.

Sorry, but that’s a nonsense, as is using the word “woke”, in my humble opinion.

If you feel that there are people who are not being listened to, and to some extent I do agree here, there are much better ways to get one’s voice heard.

The very fact that they are only targeting young men, in the same way as Andrew state, is also a worry, especially for those of us with daughters or grand daughters.

Wyllow3

But their leaders aren't, nanna8.

Its an international organisation with a great deal of experience of running such groups imported from the USA who are expert at how to "present" themselves - as in the O/P
"*Guidance on how to avoid police detection"

Absolutely. I too find it extremely worrying that groups such as this target our disenfranchised young men!

If these groups are "coming out of the woodwork" then there is a reason for it. Some people are not finding a voice in the so called mainstream political parties and are sick of being drowned out by the woke brigade and the neo liberals. The label "racism" has been weaponised to deter all adult discussion on immigration and asylum seekers.

But their leaders aren't, nanna8.

Its an international organisation with a great deal of experience of running such groups imported from the USA who are expert at how to "present" themselves - as in the O/P
"*Guidance on how to avoid police detection"

Nasty. I would dismiss it as just a bunch of yobs but it seems a bit more serious than that. The only thing is ,these people are often as thick as two short planks, so it may be relatively easy to infiltrate and destroy them.

I am concerned about all extreme organisations whether they be the one in the OP, so called far left groups or Islamist Clerics preaching Jihad.

Fortunately we have an excellent Secret Service in the U.K. and I am sure they are aware of the majority of them.

I also bear in mind that these organisations only have to be on target once to cause death and destruction, our authorities have to be on target 100% of the time to prevent such incidents.