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One Nation Conservatives

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NotSpaghetti Fri 11-Oct-24 09:18:33

The "moderate" Conservatives are the "One Nation" Conservatives. They were, for example, against breaching the rule of law so didn't like the Rwanda bill.
I think the "Build Back Greener" thing was put forward by one of them and they supported trying to tackle climate change...

They are pro people being upwardly mobile and want a safety net for those that need one.

This is my understanding.

M0nica Fri 11-Oct-24 09:08:50

Disraeli was the po;itician who developed and first used the phrase 'One nation Conservatives', and this description could be used to describe the whole Conservative political generation that came from the battle fields of Europe and Asia in WW2 to govern this country.

Many of them had experienced and seen things that would give most of todays politicians permanent PTSD and were aware that facism grew by dividing society into 'us' and 'them'. They wanted to unite society, which was the guiding principle behind the Education Act on 1944, brought in by a Conservative Administration, which extended free secondary educationto all. This was built on by the Labour government hat followed and who created the NHS and later (60s-70s) conservative governments, who did nothing to deconstruct these and built on them.

Then came 1979, and Mrs Thatcher, and the Victorian millowners were in charge again. Inevitably this drove the Labour party leftwards and we are back to Fascism and 'us' and 'them' .

Under this system we veer between the factory owners and Animal Farm Socialists, who believe that 'All our equal, but some are more equal than others' as they bury their snouts in the trough and gobble up everything the factory owners or anyone else wants to give them and completely forget that when people fatten up pigs, there is a reason for it.

Casdon Fri 11-Oct-24 08:58:26

Well, it was good, wherever it came from!

MaizieD Fri 11-Oct-24 08:56:36

Casdon

Thanks for that MaizieD, explains it perfectly.

You can tell by the formatting that I lifted the description from another site. I forgot to link to it. Such elegantly succinct prose wasn't mine 😆

Casdon Fri 11-Oct-24 08:53:14

Thanks for that MaizieD, explains it perfectly.

fancythat Fri 11-Oct-24 08:51:05

That was in reply to FGT2.

fancythat Fri 11-Oct-24 08:50:21

The bits I read, sounded like gobbledegook to me.

nanna8 Fri 11-Oct-24 08:50:18

There was a One Nation party in Australia headed by Pauline Hanson. Based in Queensland, the media crucified them . A bit like Reform but less successful.

MaizieD Fri 11-Oct-24 08:49:02

Key One-Nation Conservative thinker, Benjamin Disraeli, argued that it was in the interests of the ruling elite to adopt a stance of paternalism towards those less fortunate. Such an approach forms the basis of One-Nation Conservatism, as Disraeli observed that the interconnectedness of society meant that an issue amongst the working classes resulted in a widespread impact across a whole nation. Therefore, according to Disraeli’s vision, the ruling class had an obligation to look out for the lower classes to provide social stability

I think in the Disraeli era (mid Victorian) our FGT2 would have been the factory owner who had child workers doing 15 hour shifts for minimal pay (yes, it happened). Right wing distaste for anything that suggests some sort of concern for their fellow humans is what makes tories so unattractive.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 08:30:06

This is the ‘broad church’ they say they are. Come one come all. Mostly wets and Lib Dems in disguise. Cleverly was one. I’m glad he’s out of the running for Tory leader.

fancythat Fri 11-Oct-24 08:25:44

I only came across this phrase yesterday.

I have looked on wikipedia and am really none the wiser.

What does the phrase mean please?
Serious political people may choose not to answer, as it is probably a stupid question to them.

Apparently 1/3 of Tory MPs are "One Nation".
Are they a Conservative Party within the Party?
Which would explain the constant wrangling amongst them all?

Apparently the Tory leader candidates are both not, "One Nation".

An added bonus question - has it anything to do with End of World stuff in the Bible? Where eventually, there will be only one ruler?