I don’t know the detail of the potential investment growstuff do you have it?
It’s been a while so I will start us off…….whats for supper and why?
Rats like my apple trees. Advice?
Sir Keir will mark 100 days in power this weekend. I think they’ve had an abysmal start. One thing after another. And Sue Grey hasn’t helped either by becoming such a focus of attention. Let’s hope the Budget on 30th October is inspiring.
I don’t know the detail of the potential investment growstuff do you have it?
Women who were not told about the state pension age change have accused Labour of “disgraceful” delays over compensation.
Ministers had promised to right the “historical wrong” caused to the Women Against State Pension Inequality (Waspi) when in opposition but have now been accused of “can-kicking” the issue during their first 100 days in power.
In March, the parliamentary ombudsman found that the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had failed to adequately communicate changes to the women’s state pension age when they were announced in 1995.
It recommended a payout of up to £2,950 to the thousands of women affected – known as “Waspis” – which campaigners have called “an absolute insult”.
The ombudsman also said that complainants should not have to wait and see whether DWP would take action to rectify its failings.
Labour promised to offer compensation of up to £31,300 for Waspis in its 2019 manifesto!
FriedGreenTomatoes2
Some did! I remember those days well.
Anyhoo … moving on.
‘They’ always also discussed policy in detail though, which we seem to have lost now with all the gossip stuff, even though policy is being changed as we speak.
Jaxjacky
I don’t know the detail of the potential investment growstuff do you have it?
I do know that what P&O did to its staff was despicable and that, I believe, is what Angela Rayner referred to.
More on this topic in the Telegraph today:
“Tania Wickham, a Waspi campaigner, said: “So [Labour] criticised the last government for not compensating the women swiftly enough. One assumes they had already read the report thoroughly at that stage. Yet more delaying tactics – disgraceful behaviour.”
Angela Madden, chair of the WASPI campaign, said: “The Government campaigned on the grounds of being the party of social justice and of getting things done, yet as Labour marks 100 days in power, their lack of progress means ministers risk continuing the can-kicking of the Conservatives.
“Since the general election, we have welcomed support from hundreds of Labour MPs and are pleased to see so many new MPs backing our calls for compensation.
“Like us, these MPs know that carrying out the recommendations of both the Parliamentary Ombudsman and the Work and Pensions Select Committee without delay is the only remedy for this historic injustice.”
Steve Darling MP, Liberal Democrat Work and Pensions spokesman, said: “The Liberal Democrats have long supported fair and fast compensation for Waspi women, and we will continue to advocate for the millions of women across the country awaiting justice.
“Ministers must quickly step up for 1950s-born women and implement the findings of the Parliamentary Ombudsman’s report without delay.”
A DWP spokesman said: “This was a serious report, requiring serious consideration.”
P.s. this isn’t ’gossip stuff’ Casdon much as you may not like to read about it.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
More on this topic in the Telegraph today:
“Tania Wickham, a Waspi campaigner, said: “So [Labour] criticised the last government for not compensating the women swiftly enough. One assumes they had already read the report thoroughly at that stage. Yet more delaying tactics – disgraceful behaviour.”
Angela Madden, chair of the WASPI campaign, said: “The Government campaigned on the grounds of being the party of social justice and of getting things done, yet as Labour marks 100 days in power, their lack of progress means ministers risk continuing the can-kicking of the Conservatives.
“Since the general election, we have welcomed support from hundreds of Labour MPs and are pleased to see so many new MPs backing our calls for compensation.
“Like us, these MPs know that carrying out the recommendations of both the Parliamentary Ombudsman and the Work and Pensions Select Committee without delay is the only remedy for this historic injustice.”
Steve Darling MP, Liberal Democrat Work and Pensions spokesman, said: “The Liberal Democrats have long supported fair and fast compensation for Waspi women, and we will continue to advocate for the millions of women across the country awaiting justice.
“Ministers must quickly step up for 1950s-born women and implement the findings of the Parliamentary Ombudsman’s report without delay.”
A DWP spokesman said: “This was a serious report, requiring serious consideration.”
Labour have never promised compensation for WASPI women though, we knew that before the election? I’m not saying I agree with that stance, but it’s no surprise to anybody, including the WASPI campaign itself.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
P.s. this isn’t ’gossip stuff’ Casdon much as you may not like to read about it.
It is gossip stuff FriedGreenTomatoes2, because it’s about public perception, not about any parliamentary rules being broken. I don’t agree with what they have done, but I know that about 649 MPs have taken advantage of gifts, donations and hospitality. I’m not including Jeremy Corbyn because he may not have done.
What interests me is policy change.
I agree Maybee70 but I’m not sure how that relates directly to the T’s and C’s for this possible investment?
Well it’s women of a certain age who are affected, not the sons of toolmakers, with their own pension for one, so unlikely to figure highly.
Not a soul has said it’s been a great start from Labour.
Oh how we were lied to in the run up to the election.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
Women who were not told about the state pension age change have accused Labour of “disgraceful” delays over compensation.
Ministers had promised to right the “historical wrong” caused to the Women Against State Pension Inequality (Waspi) when in opposition but have now been accused of “can-kicking” the issue during their first 100 days in power.
In March, the parliamentary ombudsman found that the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had failed to adequately communicate changes to the women’s state pension age when they were announced in 1995.
It recommended a payout of up to £2,950 to the thousands of women affected – known as “Waspis” – which campaigners have called “an absolute insult”.
The ombudsman also said that complainants should not have to wait and see whether DWP would take action to rectify its failings.
Labour promised to offer compensation of up to £31,300 for Waspis in its 2019 manifesto!
Labour didn't stand in 2024 on its 2019 manifesto.
I think most people knew the promise then was a last-minute desperate bid to attract voters.
I don't recall this government making any promises about WASPI compensation in the run up to the latest election.
PS. I'm a WASPI woman, so I'm usually pretty sharp about any money which is potentially coming my way.
I'm not a Labour Party supporter and am disappointed in KS's leadership, but goodness I'm fed up with this relentless gleeful carping after only three months.
It was a serious reputational error to have announced two measures likely to hit the poorest hardest without parallel measures ensuring that the richest contribute fairly. We trust that these will come later.
It was a silly mistake not to realise how the freebies would look. Someone should have spotted this and stopped it before it happened. I don't think it was greed. Sorted out when realised.
I assume there is more to the Sue Gray episode than meets the eye and she doesn't come out of it well, but sorted out, we hope, when realised.
Do these early blunders shake my preference for a new Labour Government over more years of the Tories? Certainly not.
Do we know whether Whitewave is away or ill? I hope not the latter.
growstuff
It would be great to install solar panels wherever you suggest, but not every area you mention would be suitable.
Got to face the right way, get enough light etc.
MayBee70
Jaxjacky
I don’t know the detail of the potential investment growstuff do you have it?
I do know that what P&O did to its staff was despicable and that, I believe, is what Angela Rayner referred to.
That's my understanding too. I'll try to find out some more details, but I suspect the problem was that profits would not have been paid in the UK and the staff would have been recruited overseas.
Calendargirl
growstuff
It would be great to install solar panels wherever you suggest, but not every area you mention would be suitable.
Got to face the right way, get enough light etc.
Of course, but there are still many areas where they could be installed and they're not.
winterwhite I feel the same as you. I'm not usually a Labour voter either.
Jaxjacky
I agree Maybee70 but I’m not sure how that relates directly to the T’s and C’s for this possible investment?
Because DP World owns P & O and would presumably have been responsible for recruitment.
winterwhite
Do we know whether Whitewave is away or ill? I hope not the latter.
Whitewavemark2 started a thread yesterday on Labours new workers rights Bill.
I've been travelling around Normandy and Brittany all summer, so made frequent visits to supermarkets! It seemed that every carpark was having building work done to put in solar panels across their surface area. I assume there are incentives for the shops for such projects, like electricity usage, but nothing similar being offered here?
The French are excellent when it comes to infrastructure, aren’t they. It’s clean with very little litter, the roads are good, and people take real pride in their towns looking their best, always flowers etc. It doesn’t surprise me that they invest in green projects.
I have NO sympathy for the so-called WASPI women; the only inequality was for men, who had to work until they were 65 to draw their pension, and few of them had time off for maternity leave. The changes were broadcast everywhere; radio, TV, Newspapers, discussion programmes, word of mouth, many years before, unlike the Winter Fuel Allowance.
GrannyGravy13
winterwhite
Do we know whether Whitewave is away or ill? I hope not the latter.
Whitewavemark2 started a thread yesterday on Labours new workers rights Bill.
You can take it from me that she is fine.
Well Lisaangel10 here’s one soul who is very happy with the great start from this Labour government … and all against a backdrop of a relentless witch hunt from Murdoch’s media.
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