Well, here we are. 100 days of Labour tomorrow.

sharon103

Oh dear. Not going very well is it.

www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1960756/angela-rayners-big-mouth-costs-UK-1bn-investment?utm_source=daily_express_

Are you in favour of fire and rehire of cheaper, foreign workers?

So predictable when people such as Angela Rayner are promoted way beyond their capabilities.

Usually, when a new government takes over, there is a feeling of hope and positivity. It wasn't there this time. The only reason that Labour won the election was because the Tories were so incompetent.
Starmer just isn't Prime Minister material. The way he keeps changing his mind about things shows that he can't be trusted.
The Conservatives need to act quickly to get themselves ready to take over and, hopefully learn from their mistakes.

eazybee

So predictable when people such as Angela Rayner are promoted way beyond their capabilities.

I'm not really sure what she actually said, but are you aware how DP World has treated British workers in the past?

mum2three

Usually, when a new government takes over, there is a feeling of hope and positivity. It wasn't there this time. The only reason that Labour won the election was because the Tories were so incompetent.
Starmer just isn't Prime Minister material. The way he keeps changing his mind about things shows that he can't be trusted.
The Conservatives need to act quickly to get themselves ready to take over and, hopefully learn from their mistakes.

There isn't much sign they're doing that.

Unless there's an absolute disaster, there won't be another election for nearly five years.

Every new house being built should have solar panels as a matter of course

As stated previously though, not every property is suitable.

The roof has to face the right way, it needs to have a suitable pitch, it must not have trees or buildings too near it….

Not as straightforward as just sticking solar panels on every available surface.

I looked up DP World last night. It is a massive conglomerate, financed by oil money from States with dubious human rights records. It has, of course, become huge by buying existing companies.

I'm not sure that I really want the UK to be bought up by the arab oil states and the P & O affair was appalling.

Ironic that we don't want foreigners to live in the UK but we're quite happy to be owned by them...

MaizieD

I looked up DP World last night. It is a massive conglomerate, financed by oil money from States with dubious human rights records. It has, of course, become huge by buying existing companies.

I'm not sure that I really want the UK to be bought up by the arab oil states and the P & O affair was appalling.

Ironic that we don't want foreigners to live in the UK but we're quite happy to be owned by them...

It's not just being owned by foreigners Maizie, if the people working on site are foreign agency workers, there will be little net gain to the UK. The government has said that they'll be protected by the new employment laws - we'll see. It is odd though, when people are supposed to be against immigration.

PS. It was Louise Haigh, not Angela Rayner, who apparently said something to upset DP World, but anything to have a go a Rayner!

This is another brouhaha that will come to nought - simply the desperation of the right wing press.

DP World have not said that it will not invest.

Calendargirl

^Every new house being built should have solar panels as a matter of course^

As stated previously though, not every property is suitable.

The roof has to face the right way, it needs to have a suitable pitch, it must not have trees or buildings too near it….

Not as straightforward as just sticking solar panels on every available surface.

Maybe the direction of the building and pitch of the roof could be considered at the planning stage, so that the maximum number of buildings could be used for solar panels.

Louise Haigh and Angela Rayner are also close to scuppering a flagship investment of £1bn by DP World at the London container yard

Two Tier Kier needs to get his gang singing from the same hymn sheet. They are carrying on like they are still in opposition with no clear plan for the future. Coming on top of the WFP and "freebies" rows this does not look good.

Now we have the emerging Harrods acandal which is likely to at least equate to the Jimmy Saville affair. Lets not forget who was head of the CPS when some of these complaints were being brushed under the rug,

Why the need to call Starmer a name? We're not in primary school - I had hoped we'd have grown out of that kind of thing.

All his scheme is going to do is move the UK’s carbon footprint abroad.

Just so, GG13.

What saddens me most about this government and the last one is how dim most of our politicians seem to be. Something has gone badly wrong with how people are educated here if they are among the most schooled.

My chin will stay up but there will be a lot of eye-rolling unless they get a proverbial kick up the backside of sense.

It's all our so-called green schemes have done already. Totally pointless whether you think climate change is a crisis or a scam.

Aaah. The London Gateway is a Freeport. In other words, free of UK regulations and taxation. A haven for money launderers and smugglers. Where workers have no rights...

No wonder the Arab oil states are keen to invest. Suits them down to the ground...

Angela Rayner and Louise Haigh singled out P &O for censure this week in a government press release, referring to 'unscrupulous and exploitative employers.'
Louise Haigh encouraged people to boycott P & O while speaking to ITV news, referring to it as' a rogue operator that needed cracking down on,' (her grammar, not mine.)
The words of two Labour ministers, not those of the right -wing press.
Kier Starmer has claimed that their words do not represent the opinion of the government.

KS will now be working frantically behind the scenes to get the owners of P&O to attend on Monday, he must be cussing Louise Haigh.

Whitewavemark2

This is another brouhaha that will come to nought - simply the desperation of the right wing press.

DP World have not said that it will not invest.

I want to see the end deal after speculation of the many factors, but glad that high has brought up workers rights.

I'd rather that - far healthier - than what others have said, that they "ought" to sing from the same hymn sheet.

Haigh not high!

MaizieD

Aaah. The London Gateway is a Freeport. In other words, free of UK regulations and taxation. A haven for money launderers and smugglers. Where workers have no rights...

No wonder the Arab oil states are keen to invest. Suits them down to the ground...

Exactly! Starmer is probably annoyed at those two speaking in public (and maybe they should have towed the government line for the optics), but I defy anybody to claim they were wrong. Maybe people really do have sort memories and have forgotten the furore when P & O fired 800 British staff and hired replacement foreign agency workers.

This is going to be a freeport, so will operate outside normal laws. Is this what people really want? I thought the idea was to develop British jobs for British workers following British working practices. Isn't that why some people voted to leave the EU?

Wasn’t it the free port up north that resulted in a terrible loss of sea life, crabs etc although no one admitted to there being a link?

MayBee70

Wasn’t it the free port up north that resulted in a terrible loss of sea life, crabs etc although no one admitted to there being a link?

Yup. It was Teesside. There is definitely some very funny business going on there'

The enormous quantity of dead sealife happened after the dredging the Tees and dumping the dredged material out at sea. It is heavily contaminated with the results of 100+ years of intense industrial activity around the Tees.

A DEFRA report on the deaths seems to have been a whitewash; it claimed that it was an algae bloom that killed thousands of crab, lobster and shellfish.

There was also some very dodgy business involving the sale of the former steelworks site very, very cheaply to a pair of the Mayor's mates who have made huge profits selling off the scrap metal from the site. And there are questions over the sale of Teesside airport.

I’m very happy having extra rights as a worker and also keeping my rights as a human instead of having them removed.

This is going to be a freeport, so will operate outside normal laws.

I don't think people realise the full significance of this. And by 'people' I include the Labour government. For a start, all their workers rights legislation won't apply inside a freeport.

The point is that no company will refuse to invest in a project which it knows to be to its profit advantage, and DP World is no different. A government minister, who voice an opinion that many of us feel, will make zero difference to this decision. Large Companies work in decades, and will invest where the economy is stable and profitable.

Once Labour’s bill goes through, P&O will have to comply with the rules, just like all other companies.