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Well, here we are. 100 days of Labour tomorrow.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 15:09:03

Sir Keir will mark 100 days in power this weekend. I think they’ve had an abysmal start. One thing after another. And Sue Grey hasn’t helped either by becoming such a focus of attention. Let’s hope the Budget on 30th October is inspiring.

Calendargirl Fri 11-Oct-24 17:42:10

growstuff

It would be great to install solar panels wherever you suggest, but not every area you mention would be suitable.

Got to face the right way, get enough light etc.

winterwhite Fri 11-Oct-24 17:41:14

Do we know whether Whitewave is away or ill? I hope not the latter.

winterwhite Fri 11-Oct-24 17:40:13

I'm not a Labour Party supporter and am disappointed in KS's leadership, but goodness I'm fed up with this relentless gleeful carping after only three months.

It was a serious reputational error to have announced two measures likely to hit the poorest hardest without parallel measures ensuring that the richest contribute fairly. We trust that these will come later.

It was a silly mistake not to realise how the freebies would look. Someone should have spotted this and stopped it before it happened. I don't think it was greed. Sorted out when realised.

I assume there is more to the Sue Gray episode than meets the eye and she doesn't come out of it well, but sorted out, we hope, when realised.

Do these early blunders shake my preference for a new Labour Government over more years of the Tories? Certainly not.

growstuff Fri 11-Oct-24 17:33:07

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Women who were not told about the state pension age change have accused Labour of “disgraceful” delays over compensation.

Ministers had promised to right the “historical wrong” caused to the Women Against State Pension Inequality (Waspi) when in opposition but have now been accused of “can-kicking” the issue during their first 100 days in power.

In March, the parliamentary ombudsman found that the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had failed to adequately communicate changes to the women’s state pension age when they were announced in 1995.

It recommended a payout of up to £2,950 to the thousands of women affected – known as “Waspis” – which campaigners have called “an absolute insult”.

The ombudsman also said that complainants should not have to wait and see whether DWP would take action to rectify its failings.

Labour promised to offer compensation of up to £31,300 for Waspis in its 2019 manifesto!

Labour didn't stand in 2024 on its 2019 manifesto.

I think most people knew the promise then was a last-minute desperate bid to attract voters.

I don't recall this government making any promises about WASPI compensation in the run up to the latest election.

PS. I'm a WASPI woman, so I'm usually pretty sharp about any money which is potentially coming my way.

Lisaangel10 Fri 11-Oct-24 17:03:21

Not a soul has said it’s been a great start from Labour.
Oh how we were lied to in the run up to the election.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 16:28:20

Well it’s women of a certain age who are affected, not the sons of toolmakers, with their own pension for one, so unlikely to figure highly.

Jaxjacky Fri 11-Oct-24 16:26:30

I agree Maybee70 but I’m not sure how that relates directly to the T’s and C’s for this possible investment?

Casdon Fri 11-Oct-24 16:25:42

FriedGreenTomatoes2

P.s. this isn’t ’gossip stuff’ Casdon much as you may not like to read about it.

It is gossip stuff FriedGreenTomatoes2, because it’s about public perception, not about any parliamentary rules being broken. I don’t agree with what they have done, but I know that about 649 MPs have taken advantage of gifts, donations and hospitality. I’m not including Jeremy Corbyn because he may not have done.
What interests me is policy change.

Casdon Fri 11-Oct-24 16:22:10

FriedGreenTomatoes2

More on this topic in the Telegraph today:

“Tania Wickham, a Waspi campaigner, said: “So [Labour] criticised the last government for not compensating the women swiftly enough. One assumes they had already read the report thoroughly at that stage. Yet more delaying tactics – disgraceful behaviour.”

Angela Madden, chair of the WASPI campaign, said: “The Government campaigned on the grounds of being the party of social justice and of getting things done, yet as Labour marks 100 days in power, their lack of progress means ministers risk continuing the can-kicking of the Conservatives.

“Since the general election, we have welcomed support from hundreds of Labour MPs and are pleased to see so many new MPs backing our calls for compensation.

“Like us, these MPs know that carrying out the recommendations of both the Parliamentary Ombudsman and the Work and Pensions Select Committee without delay is the only remedy for this historic injustice.”

Steve Darling MP, Liberal Democrat Work and Pensions spokesman, said: “The Liberal Democrats have long supported fair and fast compensation for Waspi women, and we will continue to advocate for the millions of women across the country awaiting justice.

“Ministers must quickly step up for 1950s-born women and implement the findings of the Parliamentary Ombudsman’s report without delay.”

A DWP spokesman said: “This was a serious report, requiring serious consideration.”

Labour have never promised compensation for WASPI women though, we knew that before the election? I’m not saying I agree with that stance, but it’s no surprise to anybody, including the WASPI campaign itself.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 16:18:57

P.s. this isn’t ’gossip stuff’ Casdon much as you may not like to read about it.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 16:17:55

More on this topic in the Telegraph today:

“Tania Wickham, a Waspi campaigner, said: “So [Labour] criticised the last government for not compensating the women swiftly enough. One assumes they had already read the report thoroughly at that stage. Yet more delaying tactics – disgraceful behaviour.”

Angela Madden, chair of the WASPI campaign, said: “The Government campaigned on the grounds of being the party of social justice and of getting things done, yet as Labour marks 100 days in power, their lack of progress means ministers risk continuing the can-kicking of the Conservatives.

“Since the general election, we have welcomed support from hundreds of Labour MPs and are pleased to see so many new MPs backing our calls for compensation.

“Like us, these MPs know that carrying out the recommendations of both the Parliamentary Ombudsman and the Work and Pensions Select Committee without delay is the only remedy for this historic injustice.”

Steve Darling MP, Liberal Democrat Work and Pensions spokesman, said: “The Liberal Democrats have long supported fair and fast compensation for Waspi women, and we will continue to advocate for the millions of women across the country awaiting justice.

“Ministers must quickly step up for 1950s-born women and implement the findings of the Parliamentary Ombudsman’s report without delay.”

A DWP spokesman said: “This was a serious report, requiring serious consideration.”

MayBee70 Fri 11-Oct-24 16:17:06

Jaxjacky

I don’t know the detail of the potential investment growstuff do you have it?

I do know that what P&O did to its staff was despicable and that, I believe, is what Angela Rayner referred to.

Casdon Fri 11-Oct-24 16:16:51

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Some did! I remember those days well.
Anyhoo … moving on.

‘They’ always also discussed policy in detail though, which we seem to have lost now with all the gossip stuff, even though policy is being changed as we speak.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 16:14:52

Women who were not told about the state pension age change have accused Labour of “disgraceful” delays over compensation.

Ministers had promised to right the “historical wrong” caused to the Women Against State Pension Inequality (Waspi) when in opposition but have now been accused of “can-kicking” the issue during their first 100 days in power.

In March, the parliamentary ombudsman found that the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had failed to adequately communicate changes to the women’s state pension age when they were announced in 1995.

It recommended a payout of up to £2,950 to the thousands of women affected – known as “Waspis” – which campaigners have called “an absolute insult”.

The ombudsman also said that complainants should not have to wait and see whether DWP would take action to rectify its failings.

Labour promised to offer compensation of up to £31,300 for Waspis in its 2019 manifesto!

Jaxjacky Fri 11-Oct-24 16:12:57

I don’t know the detail of the potential investment growstuff do you have it?

Sarnia Fri 11-Oct-24 16:10:03

I didn't really expect anything too much during the first 100 days. They were not likely to overturn the mess the Tories left after 14 years in charge. I am concerned about their blinkered determination to impose a 20% VAT increase on private school fees because although it will not cause issues for the wealthy those children with SEND who go to private SPECIALIST schools may face the very real problem of being sent back into the state system who could not meet their educational needs originally. Labour thinks it is black and white. It is a very long way from that. I hope for a fair and well thought through Budget but I fear the worst.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 16:08:10

Some did! I remember those days well.
Anyhoo … moving on.

growstuff Fri 11-Oct-24 16:04:02

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Lighten up. Remember the names for Boris? I never moaned. 😊

And I never called him any of them.

growstuff Fri 11-Oct-24 16:03:00

Jaxjacky

Louise Haigh and Angela Rayner are also close to scuppering a flagship investment of £1bn by DP World at the London container yard.

Hmmm! The £1bn might not have been so advantageous to the UK, if most of the workers were foreign and the profits syphoned off abroad.

growstuff Fri 11-Oct-24 15:59:44

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Power cuts, very expensive energy for homes and business; 20k oil workers losing their jobs. Racing ahead too fast before the science is ready - I'm thinking heat pumps, electric cars. The list goes on. Miliband scares me. He’s like a zealot.

Oil workers can be retrained to install wind farms and solar panels (and maintain them).

Jaxjacky Fri 11-Oct-24 15:58:51

Louise Haigh and Angela Rayner are also close to scuppering a flagship investment of £1bn by DP World at the London container yard.

maddyfour Fri 11-Oct-24 15:58:49

GrannyGravy13

My chin is trying to stay up, but so far I am unimpressed.

That’s me too.

Casdon Fri 11-Oct-24 15:58:38

FriedGreenTomatoes2

My chin is up Casdon 😁
I’m watching developments with interest.

Tell us what you think, specifically, of the bills and announcements so far, as opposed to the gossip, and I’ll believe you.

growstuff Fri 11-Oct-24 15:58:33

GrannyGravy13

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And what about Miliband's deranged enthusiasm for ruining the country, financially and environmentally in pursuit of some pointless target that no other country is even trying to reach.

All his scheme is going to do is move the UK’s carbon footprint abroad.

Solar panels on farming land, just downright ridiculous, put them in buildings, industrial units or car parks.

For once, I partly agree with you GrannyGravy. I'm not that bothered about solar 'farms', although I really don't understand why solar panels aren't being installed on every car park, industrial unit, hospital and school, etc.

I confess I don't know that much about carbon capture, but (from what I've read) it does seem a strange way to invest so much money.

Why doesn't the government give universal grants to people and businesses to make sure their buildings are as well-insulated as possible, with boiler upgrades if necessary? (Lots of potential for you there, by the way ;-))

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 11-Oct-24 15:56:08

Power cuts, very expensive energy for homes and business; 20k oil workers losing their jobs. Racing ahead too fast before the science is ready - I'm thinking heat pumps, electric cars. The list goes on. Miliband scares me. He’s like a zealot.