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Diversity quota.

(118 Posts)
Smileless2012 Sun 13-Oct-24 12:15:08

Utterly ridiculous and I wonder how they expected your DD to know if she had any LGBT or trans in her team.

eazybee Sun 13-Oct-24 11:43:57

I remember positive discrimination in the Midlands in the 1980s. A college lecturer applied for a job as Head of Department, which he had run successfully during the failing health of the incumbent, but was replaced by a black candidate, far less experienced or qualified, and told it was because 'we have to consider ethnic minorities.'
Because of that casual remark he was able to sue and won his case for discrimination, but the College lost a very good lecturer because he no longer wished to work for that authority. It also happened with graduates of the local Training College for Mature Students; many were shoe-horned into posts of responsibility based on age, not experience or ability.
It should always be : the best candidate for the job.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 13-Oct-24 11:11:20

It is absolute Bo***cks!

The only reason a person should get the job is because they are the best candidate for the job, never mind their creed, colour or sexual orientation!

theworriedwell Sun 13-Oct-24 11:10:02

David49

Positive discrimination causes much disappointment and anger for those who are better qualified but passed over in the name of diversity.
So I disapprove, however in business it didn’t affect me, most of the roles suited women, retail, catering, animal care and accounts, so was a happy workplace.

Positive discrimination is not lawful in the UK so it shouldn't be causing disappointment or anger.

I used to work in police admin, a young white man was telling me how unfair it was that he kept getting turned down when he applied to join the police because he was white and male and the police weren't taking on any white men. I pointed to a group of recruits on their way to a meeting/lecture and said how many of them are white men (here's a clue the majority were white men.)

I think sometimes people blame positive discrimination when they can't accept they weren't the best person for the job.

eazybee Sun 13-Oct-24 11:01:37

The answer should be; treat them exactly the same as every one else.
Why should they be accorded different treatment because of a different sexual orientation?

David49 Sun 13-Oct-24 10:59:58

Positive discrimination causes much disappointment and anger for those who are better qualified but passed over in the name of diversity.
So I disapprove, however in business it didn’t affect me, most of the roles suited women, retail, catering, animal care and accounts, so was a happy workplace.

maddyfour Sun 13-Oct-24 10:34:25

What a complete waste of time, and the wrong focus. The focus should always be on getting the job done properly and efficiently. Whoever is best for the job should be the person doing the job.

Wyllow3 Sun 13-Oct-24 10:26:20

This kind of intervention was initially introduced for very good reasons, ie the time when women and people of colour were actively discriminated against. (which the O/P's daughter had assumed)

But I can see no value or benefit in questions on sexual orientation.

pascal30 Sun 13-Oct-24 10:14:33

positive bias is still discrimination,, people should be employed on merit

TerriBull Sun 13-Oct-24 10:14:03

Their overall percentage of the population is minute. Why does anyone need to know about a prospective colleague's sexual orientation anyway in a workplace context, surely it's the individual's ability to be the best candidate that matters. Did anyone ever feel the need to add this when being interviewed a few years ago. "By the way, I'm hetrosexual/gay, just thought you should know"

nanna8 Sun 13-Oct-24 10:08:22

I would call this total and utter bollocks on the part of the employer. What right have they to nosy into people’s personal beliefs and sexual orientation? None of their damn business.

Sago Sun 13-Oct-24 09:59:59

Another reason why this country is on its knees.
Wokery!
What happened to meritocracy.

Greyduster Sun 13-Oct-24 09:03:45

DS works for a very large insurance company and he says they are fixated with diversity at the moment. He too believes that recruitment should be on merit and qualification to the exclusion of any other criteria. He can’t wait to retire.

fancythat Sun 13-Oct-24 09:01:56

Ludicrous behaviour by work management.
Unless she works in that sort of field.

petra Sun 13-Oct-24 08:45:31

I would have been tempted to tell them that both men were transgender.
Did your daughter challenge the management?

Septimia Sun 13-Oct-24 08:41:26

How ridiculous! You're not supposed to ask about things like age, marital status or sexuality on application forms or in interviews, so how would you know? What's more, it's their business and, as long as they're doing their job properly, it doesn't matter.

Merseymog Sun 13-Oct-24 08:41:24

My view has always been that such quotas are no substitute for selection on merit alone. The best person for the job irrespective of ethnicity, gender, sexuality, religon should get the post.

kircubbin2000 Sun 13-Oct-24 08:31:15

There seems to be an agenda at work. My daughter was interviewed by work management and asked what she had done to improve diversity in the workplace.She was able to tell them that she had employed two young men from sub Sahara Africa recently.
They were not impressed and wanted to know how many lgb or trans she had on her team.