The US Election.

Almost certainly a win for Trump now.
I believe this is because of his hostile anti-immigration stance.
It feels like Brexit to me.

Freshair

It'll be Trump won't it. Not good

Way too soon for that claim !

Interesting. We are watching it live here in Australia. Too early yet,though.

It'll be Trump won't it. Not good

I’ve got Sky on mute… ugh orange man 23

Not back on now 'till 5am.

Watching Sky on and off.

Is anyone else watching this:

www.youtube.com/live/sAmC9FDX4aE?si=x2jwhd5Uxnuh0gTJ

It's the live "The Rest is Politics - America Decides"?

Really interesting discussions with interesting and knowledgeable guests.

I have spent a lot of time NOT asking my Trump-loving relatives why they want to vote for him, so I can't answer the question "Why would anyone vote for him?" I love some people whose politics are very different from my own, and even more incomprehensibly, they love me.

FBI agents tend to be Republican, but they also tend to think a lot of law and order (to put it mildly). I think they are among a number of government bodies who are very interested in ensuring a peaceful transition of power.

MayBee70

I’m having to hide from it and am just watching Sky Arts etc. If I turn the news on I just see and hear Trump and I can’t stand it. At the same time I’m terrified of what might happen in America he does lose. How can something like this be happening? How can anyone vote for him?

I'm off to bed to read my book.
It's a rather strange book but not as strange as what's going on over there.
Every time he opens his mouth he sounds as mad as a box of frogs.

I’m having to hide from it and am just watching Sky Arts etc. If I turn the news on I just see and hear Trump and I can’t stand it. At the same time I’m terrified of what might happen in America he does lose. How can something like this be happening? How can anyone vote for him?

If you are awake around the world and want to watch the polls closing, here are the times they close by state.

www.yahoo.com/news/election-day-voting-poll-closing-times-tonight-by-state--plus-key-swing-states-to-watch-123946665.html

winterwhite

What time did the polls close then? I'd have expected New Hampshire to be more or less 5 hours behind GMT like New York - so at our 6.00 p.m about 1 o'clock in the afternoon??? Where have I gone wrong?

Most polls in each close at 7 pm. In this case, since 100% of their registered voters had voted, they can call the election. You will see the Eastern Standard Time states start reporting polling results after 7 pm EST. London is 5 hours ahead of New York.

IMO I think the only way we will know today is if the people in reliably Red states flip blue and we do not have to rely on the swing states. I think we will be looking at Iowa and Kansas for out of norm results. Maybe Montana.

Of course, that is speculation on my part based on what I am seeing and reading online and talking to people. LOTS of people are tired of Trump here, even previous supporters.

We will see.

The FBIhas released a statement, saying it is "aware of bomb threats to polling locations in several states, many of which appear to originate from Russian email domains".
"None of the threats have been determined to be credible thus far. Election integrity is among the FBI's highest priorities," the agency added.
From Sky News.

Bizarre?!

I'be been following CNN all day on and off and glad its mostly been peaceful (there was a faux bomb threat in a mainly black area of Atlanta) designed to keep voters, after a dodgy SM post,
but it was checked out and cleared so rapidly it made me realise as Nmama said there is backup for any trouble.

Someone on X

I just have to comment on Trump as a patriarchal leader. Sheesh. He's a fat, out of shape man who wears a lot of makeup, swears a lot, thinks is okay to grab women by the genitals, and has recently made statements about a well-known American golfer had big genitals.

We've got an older crowd here: do you happen to know any men who fought in WWII? What would they have thought of Donald Trump? I'm thinking of two strong silent men: my dad, who volunteered to do espionage in South America even before the US entered the war, in hopes of reducing the number of U-Boat hits on ships traveling to the UK from Rio and Buenos Aires--not exactly a desk job; he came close to death. more than once, and ended up a POW. I'm thinking of my father-in-law, later, once the US was in the war; he was on troop ships traveling to the UK, training men who were going to D-Day, dodging U-Boats. It's impossible for me to imagine either of them having anything but contempt for a man who wears makeup, period; both of them were Republicans, but they would have been appalled by a candidate who behaves like Trump in general, and talking about another man's genitals would have just CAPPED it. They had dignity and were courageous and were quick to judge. I doubt they'd have voted for a woman, but think they'd have stayed home from the polls.

There are no teleprompters at debates between candidates, for obvious reasons. If you doubt Harris's ability to reason and to speak in comprehensible sentences, please watch the debate between her and Trump. It starts about 6 minutes in.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgsC_aBquUE

I'm biased, I admit, but . . . I think she wiped the floor with him. It was generally conceded that she won the debate. He SAID he won, but he would, wouldn't he? If he actually believed he had won he would have been eager to debate her again. He wasn't.

It may be some days before we know who the next President may be, but some of Trump's little flunkies are threatening civil war if he doesn't get elected. That seems to suggest that those who opposed Trump and the powers that be haven't learned anything from the January 6 riot. I wouldn't bet on it.

No one has been reporting on this, for good reason, but my guess is that the current administration has made very good plans for dealing with illegal / violent unrest that may come after the election. Protests are one thing, violence is another. I believe that most Trump supporters aren't wild to shoot Democrats; they just want him elected, not to kill people who may have voted against him. If there is violent unrest, well, Biden may be less than able, but do Trump's more violence-prone admirers seriously imagine that the current President is incapable of summoning the National Guard and Armed Forces to combat illegal unrest? I hope it won't come to that, of course.

Yes: ora pro nobis: pray for us. Pray for peace, if nothing else.

I view Clinton as a creepy man, certsinly not at the forefront of feminism.
My prediction is Harris win, by quite a bit. I have used no scientific method or even looked at the polls

Iam64

Every brief news coverage I’ve heard today has mentioned the gender divide. Women much more likely to vote Harris, many influenced by the abortion issues which imo whatever our personal beliefs are medieval when a child pregnant by incest rape aged 10 is expected to deliver her baby.
Worryingly, young men are more likely to vote Trump - the are attracted by his macho presentation. Needless to say, unwanted pregnancies are not their concern
Talk about one step forward three steps back

Absolutely.

Large swathes of the US still operate as an over-reaching patriarchal society. Sadly they've got a bit of a way to go when it comes to equality.

Women are under represented in high government roles. Interestingly, the highest percentage of women in Cabinet posts came under both the Clinton and Obama administrations and the current Biden administration. All with politically savvy and high achieving wives - that could be a coincidence, but make of it what you will.

winterwhite

What time did the polls close then? I'd have expected New Hampshire to be more or less 5 hours behind GMT like New York - so at our 6.00 p.m about 1 o'clock in the afternoon??? Where have I gone wrong?

You haven't!

There are just 6 registered voters, and they all voted early. And I would guess it didn't take long to do the count.

Presumably if everyone registered to vote has done so, they can declare.

Every brief news coverage I’ve heard today has mentioned the gender divide. Women much more likely to vote Harris, many influenced by the abortion issues which imo whatever our personal beliefs are medieval when a child pregnant by incest rape aged 10 is expected to deliver her baby.
Worryingly, young men are more likely to vote Trump - the are attracted by his macho presentation. Needless to say, unwanted pregnancies are not their concern
Talk about one step forward three steps back

What time did the polls close then? I'd have expected New Hampshire to be more or less 5 hours behind GMT like New York - so at our 6.00 p.m about 1 o'clock in the afternoon??? Where have I gone wrong?

Now there are twenty states that have put the National Guard soldiers on stand by. I don't think we will know the results for days.

ferry23

The first results are in with Dixville Hatch in New Hampshire polling as follows -

6 voters

3 for Harris
3 for Trump

(I think that's a 100% turnout)

A microcosm of the US?

I loved their handmade notice to announce the results, good to see the human side.