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Wyllow3 Tue 15-Oct-24 10:41:48

Trumps campaign/supporters continually use the words and memes around war, not of contesting a democracy. They stir hatred, division. They talk of a MAGA "army. Steve Bannon stood up and declared "Victory or Death!
see him do this
www.c-span.org/video/?c5120971/steve-bannon-turning-point-conference-victory-death

This article below refers to Steve Bannon's tactics (his words) to "flood the media with sh*t) and describes with many examples how Trump has been doing just that over the last few weeks, and takes a hard look at how Elon Musk is using SM as part of the campaign.

thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/4928484-trump-media-strategy-2024/

keepingquiet Tue 15-Oct-24 10:20:32

Freya5

Grandmabatty

I would hope, Freya that your post was tongue in cheek, because the reality of Trump as president again is so scary. The man is nuts

In a way, do you really think I want Trump as the next Potus. No. The showmanship on both sides is mind boggling, both seemingly telling porkies, caught out by video. Still we have no say in who will be voted in, poor America, neither of them will be good for the country I fear. I think there will be unrest whoever wins.

You sum it up well. Politics in the US is in a real mess. However, Harris seems like a grown-up who will appeal to the grown-ups. We had populism here too and now I'm glad it's gone and the children are now eating themselves.

There are massive differences between our systems and yours though, that I don't think people in the UK really grasp.

In the end it is about whether you want democracy, and whether you are prepared to defend it without the use of rioting and violence, only with the rule of law.

Wyllow3 Tue 15-Oct-24 09:59:33

Thank you for starting this thread. The idea of Trump as POTUS is truly scary not just for the USA but for us all.

Mamie Tue 15-Oct-24 09:35:10

Whitewavemark2

mamie yes I also - my problem is finding the time to keep up with it all.

Isn’t Katie Kay’s diction good?

It is. I think in one episode Anthony Scaramucci said something along the lines of how her voice alone made her a person of great power and influence in America. 😂

Freya5 Tue 15-Oct-24 09:32:21

Grandmabatty

I would hope, Freya that your post was tongue in cheek, because the reality of Trump as president again is so scary. The man is nuts

In a way, do you really think I want Trump as the next Potus. No. The showmanship on both sides is mind boggling, both seemingly telling porkies, caught out by video. Still we have no say in who will be voted in, poor America, neither of them will be good for the country I fear. I think there will be unrest whoever wins.

Grandmabatty Tue 15-Oct-24 08:21:22

I would hope, Freya that your post was tongue in cheek, because the reality of Trump as president again is so scary. The man is nuts

Freya5 Tue 15-Oct-24 08:03:50

Much more exciting than our dull dreary last one.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Oct-24 07:25:52

mamie yes I also - my problem is finding the time to keep up with it all.

Isn’t Katie Kay’s diction good?

Mamie Tue 15-Oct-24 07:21:48

I find "The Rest is Politics US" podcasts extremely well-informed and helpful.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Oct-24 07:18:42

With only 3 weeks to go, perhaps we can start to watch the shenanigans taking place in the USA.

Trump is warning America of his intention post election.

“Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.
In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.
He singled out the California congressman, Adam Schiff, who was the lead prosecutor in the ex-president’s first impeachment trial, as posing a bigger threat to a free and fair election than foreign terrorists or illegal immigrants, his usual prime target for abuse.
Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden”.