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The UK population is in decline

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mae13 Thu 17-Oct-24 12:09:35

TerriBull

I've read that population is in decline in great swathes of the western world, it's not just here. A combination of the unaffordability of setting up home, childcare, fewer women opting for marriage/partner and careers taking precedence.

And I hope we won't see world governments attempting to guilt-trip women into becoming breeding machines in order to produce the next generation of workforce fodder to keep big business corporations happy.
Looking back in history, the Third Reich promoted motherhood in order to produce a master race as a "noble" ambition for young women. Never again, surely?

Wyllow3 Thu 17-Oct-24 12:05:29

It's a key one, both in terms of "looking after" and people in work paying taxes. It's probably cheaper in the short medium term to bring people in.
Just as well that some families whose parents were originally immigrants are contributing to the birth population, it still doesnt bring numbers up to "replacement" level.

Sarnia agree about people able to work and not, but how to change it?

AGAA4 Thu 17-Oct-24 11:39:46

Is the main problem that there will not be enough young people to bear the burden of so many older people?

Sarnia Thu 17-Oct-24 11:27:59

Increase immigration?! The latest figures, which may need alteration, is 1.2 million. How many more would you like, Grantanow?
For a start we need to get those on benefits who are capable of work back into employment. It's become a lifestyle choice for far too many. It has to stop.

CariadAgain Thu 17-Oct-24 11:20:24

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TerriBull Thu 17-Oct-24 11:17:12

I've read that population is in decline in great swathes of the western world, it's not just here. A combination of the unaffordability of setting up home, childcare, fewer women opting for marriage/partner and careers taking precedence.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 11:15:47

Grantanow

The UK replacement rate (births minus deaths) is declining and that is helpfully offset by increased immigration. Should the government take measures to increase the birthrate - a bounty for extra kids, family allowance for all kids, a cheap rail and bus ticket for large families (as in France) and meantime increase immigration for those of working age from the EU and elsewhere?

No!

The only way for this Earth to recover for future generations and for our wildlife to survive is for populations to decline, not increase.

AGAA4 Thu 17-Oct-24 11:11:55

I think people are having less children for economic reasons amongst others. Two of my ACs only have one child each. The days of large families are over. Young adults with skills coming into the country would help.

maddyfour Thu 17-Oct-24 11:06:34

I would like to see higher immigration from the EU. I have met many immigrants from the EU and they are hard working people.

25Avalon Thu 17-Oct-24 11:06:09

The UK indigenous population is in decline but that of ‘immigrant’ families is growing. It is estimated their population will swell by 6 million.

EmmaAlva Thu 17-Oct-24 11:02:44

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Grantanow Thu 17-Oct-24 10:59:12

The UK replacement rate (births minus deaths) is declining and that is helpfully offset by increased immigration. Should the government take measures to increase the birthrate - a bounty for extra kids, family allowance for all kids, a cheap rail and bus ticket for large families (as in France) and meantime increase immigration for those of working age from the EU and elsewhere?