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Should we really be doing this?

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LR10 Fri 18-Oct-24 13:29:31

So Labour are sending 100 staff to swing states in the USA to canvass for Kamala Harris. How would we feel if the USA did that during our election campaign - I for one would be furious! Do other Gransnetters think it's OK to involve ourselves in another country's presidential election?

Delene100 Thu 24-Oct-24 12:44:38

Nigel Farage, now an MP, has been supporting Trump openly for years. How is this any different? I understand they are private individuals, who are members of the Labiur Party.

Wyllow3 Thu 24-Oct-24 12:54:52

There are 2 points at discussion here, one is attending official Party Conventions as a guest,

And the other, individuals going over unpaid to help out at an election.

Farage and Truss (and others to a lesser extent) both get private funding to go over and support the Republicans both at conventions and at other events. But they wiggle round the funding issue like Farage here
www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/17/farage-given-free-team-of-us-pr-advisers-by-former-bannon-aides-firm

Mollygo Thu 24-Oct-24 13:11:40

I’m not bothered about them going as private individuals, whatever party they belong to. Merely about them representing a political party whether or not voters are happy with that.
If it was on a canvassing leaflet, e.g. , Vote for X! He/she promises to go to the USA ^ to support Trump’s campaign or Harris’s campaign I wonder what the impact on voters would be.

Wyllow3 Thu 24-Oct-24 14:16:06

Well it's sort of happening in a mini way in the current elections for the new Leader of the Conservative Party. Robert Jenrick has made a point of saying he's backing Trump.

Mollygo Thu 24-Oct-24 14:56:17

But voters aren’t involved. Or did he declare that in his election leaflet?

Wyllow3 Thu 24-Oct-24 15:25:06

Just got it from here, its in other sources gong back a month or so

news.sky.com/story/robert-jenrick-profile-who-is-the-tory-leadership-candidate-that-went-from-centrist-remainer-to-trump-backing-voice-of-the-right-13238622

Mollygo Thu 24-Oct-24 16:23:57

So did he declare his Trumpery to the voters in the general election?

Trueloveways Thu 24-Oct-24 17:26:38

This has been happening for years for both the Democrats - Labour volunteers and the Republicans- Conservative volunteers, all self funded.

Mollygo Thu 24-Oct-24 19:23:37

Trueloveways

This has been happening for years for both the Democrats - Labour volunteers and the Republicans- Conservative volunteers, all self funded.

But do you think it is right, just because it has been happening for years?
Individuals, yes.
Political representatives, however they claim to be funded?

WelwynWitch3 Fri 01-Nov-24 17:47:34

maddyfour

I’ll be very happy if you can tell me who else is footing the bill Casdon.
If it was announced it was Lord Alli then I’m afraid I missed that.
Who do you think are footing the bill then?

It has been on BBC news radio and in the papers. 100 Labour members have been in USA canvassing for Kamala Harris. Trump has already said he won’t forget what Labour has done.