How Tiresome, Silly Young Woman Protests At King Charles

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00opsidia

I don't know if she would have spoken to Queen Elizabeth like that...

As people we all need to take responsibility for how we treat others and shouting at someone in public in that way is not a respectful way to foster communication.

Really

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I did think she looks older or has lived a hard life, yes. (Because we all age differently and sometimes people look old before their time). People who have drunk a lot, smoked or done other aging things as well as those who have been through a lot can and often do look older. It wasn't meant as a judgement, but an observation, a truth.

I don't know anything about her lifestyle, but I was disagreeing with the description of "Silly young woman" in the title. As in, I wouldn't describe her as "young".

Silly yes, but young no.

Still, I thought Charles handled it well.

Well, she's 51 and looks ok for 51 but I don't think she's had a hard life, just a busy one like many women.

ftm420

Ferry23 I agree. The King welcomes freedom of speech and she is entitled to protest. He's used to it and quite likely he agrees with her sentiments, but can't say so in public anyway.

I agree, I think it quite likely he would.

There's a time and place for working 'through the system" and a time for what was peaceful but vocal protest.

Wyllow3

ftm420

Ferry23 I agree. The King welcomes freedom of speech and she is entitled to protest. He's used to it and quite likely he agrees with her sentiments, but can't say so in public anyway.

I agree, I think it quite likely he would.

There's a time and place for working 'through the system" and a time for what was peaceful but vocal protest.

peaceful
😁 I don't think Lidia has ever been peaceful!

I was generalising about the hard life / about the reasons why everyone ages differently and I wasn't criticising her looks, just explaining why I said she wasn't "young". I think she looks ok apart from looking angry. Everyone looks nicer when they don't look angry.

It would have been good to do things differently. She would do well to learn how to communicate in a more effective manner and manage her anger better.

00opsidia

I don't know if she would have spoken to Queen Elizabeth like that...

As people we all need to take responsibility for how we treat others and shouting at someone in public in that way is not a respectful way to foster communication.

I think she "fostered communication" very successfully, it's all over the media. Aim achieved.

OldFrill

00opsidia

I don't know if she would have spoken to Queen Elizabeth like that...

As people we all need to take responsibility for how we treat others and shouting at someone in public in that way is not a respectful way to foster communication.

I think she "fostered communication" very successfully, it's all over the media. Aim achieved.

Sadly, it is, and has completely overshadowed the dignified welcome by the traditional owners of the land.

I can’t understand why anyone thinks these parasites are due RESPECT just because of the family they were born into….not to mention the hundreds of millions they cost EVERY year ,Time we got rid of them ,they are a medieval concept living ina modern world .

I think she was very 'effective'. Charles will understand that this isn't personal and is aimed at the monarch, whoever that is at the time, and will think about what she said.

The dignified welcome had its place but so does this. I don't think it overshadowed it.

AGAA4

I think she was very 'effective'. Charles will understand that this isn't personal and is aimed at the monarch, whoever that is at the time, and will think about what she said.

Absolutely. Times change. The Queen visited Australia when children were being forced away from families into "Re-education" but wouldn't have been able to speak up.

I think the King probably has a fair amount of sympathy with her views but, as ftm420 says, he can't say too much.

Lidia Thorpe is an elected politician and thus has more opportunity and a wider platform than most on which to express her concerns in parliament, and possibly convince others to do something about them. It was, I believe, a majority of Australian people who voted recently against giving increased political rights to indigenous people; they are the ones she needs to convince.
But so much easier to demean herself and her protest by bawling and shouting in the face of King Charles.

I don't just think a monarch deserves respect, I believe all humans do. While we cannot change the past, we can work together to make a better future.

Respectful, mature communication doesn't include shouting and waving arms in an angry way.

Whatever you think of the Monarchy, I don't think shouting angrily and aggressively in public is the right way to behave to anyone, whoever they are. If they have cancer, it's even worse. It always pays to Be KIND

Even if King Charles was responsible for the genocide, there would still be better ways of tackling the situation. I agree that she demeaned herself.

Good post 00opsidia.

Iam64

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

She is entitled to protest as are those who disagree with her.

Absolutely 👏👏👏

Another Absolutely. Indigenous people in Commonwealth countries are entitled to express their views. The king seems capable of reflection and seems to have a genuine interest in our countries history. I bet he took this in his stride.

I bet he did too.
Probably not fussed if Oz decided to cut loose.
It’s their call.

That said, how representative is this woman of the views of the population there? She lost her credibility somewhat with me when she told the King to Foxtrot Oscar.

She has Irish & English heritage too.
She is only part Aboriginal, which might explain why she feels she needs to be so such more extreme than those who have no settler heritage?

She looks about as aboriginal as Dame Edna....

Thankyou Smileless

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Iam64

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

She is entitled to protest as are those who disagree with her.

Absolutely 👏👏👏

Another Absolutely. Indigenous people in Commonwealth countries are entitled to express their views. The king seems capable of reflection and seems to have a genuine interest in our countries history. I bet he took this in his stride.

I bet he did too.
Probably not fussed if Oz decided to cut loose.
It’s their call.

That said, how representative is this woman of the views of the population there? She lost her credibility somewhat with me when she told the King to Foxtrot Oscar.

Some people have no decorum 🤦‍♀️

The issues are complicated, summary here

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-67110193