1100 prisoners to be released today.

Tories released 10,000 prisoners early, source Financial Times. Did you complain about that?

Dear god. The sooner this government is kicked out the better. We’ve got 5 years of this s..t. Unbelievable.

Many released in September committed a crime, arrested,
charged appeared in court and found guilty by October? No

Just watched a very angry Richard Madely and Susanna Reid interview Shabana Mahmood , who apparently believes early release is allowed on the offences committed, not on the offender. She was not aware of the protest by Elizabeth Hudson, whose ex-husband is one to be released early. His offences, holding a knife to her throat and threatening violence, subjected to a restraining order,don't qualify as being serious enough to remain in prison, as Ms Mahmmod smilingly said, but she will go back to the office and 'find out.' Jolly good.
Why has this prison release scheme been authorised so quickly when a launch of a six month review is only being launched today?

eazybee

Just watched a very angry Richard Madely and Susanna Reid interview Shabana Mahmood , who apparently believes early release is allowed on the offences committed, not on the offender. She was not aware of the protest by Elizabeth Hudson, whose ex-husband is one to be released early. His offences, holding a knife to her throat and threatening violence, subjected to a restraining order,don't qualify as being serious enough to remain in prison, as Ms Mahmmod smilingly said, but she will go back to the office and 'find out.' Jolly good.
Why has this prison release scheme been authorised so quickly when a launch of a six month review is only being launched today?

Another, like Lammy who has been given a role way above her capabilities. Jobs for the boys eh.

Grandmabatty

Tories released 10,000 prisoners early, source Financial Times. Did you complain about that?

Bet you did though, if they reoffended. Anyway this has been done without thought or planning, just a knee jerk reaction to a few riots, nothing as big as the last ones though.

Grandmabatty without a timescale and further information that 10,000 figure is too ambiguous for a meaningful comparison. Were they released a day early, a year early, over the course of one week, or over a year?

I understand the necessity to free up some space, but hope the authorities are better prepared this time so mistakes aren't made.

eazybee

Just watched a very angry Richard Madely and Susanna Reid interview Shabana Mahmood , who apparently believes early release is allowed on the offences committed, not on the offender. She was not aware of the protest by Elizabeth Hudson, whose ex-husband is one to be released early. His offences, holding a knife to her throat and threatening violence, subjected to a restraining order,don't qualify as being serious enough to remain in prison, as Ms Mahmmod smilingly said, but she will go back to the office and 'find out.' Jolly good.
Why has this prison release scheme been authorised so quickly when a launch of a six month review is only being launched today?

I saw that interview, typical Government Minister, saying the same thing over and over trying to waste time.

I lost count how many times she said pull the lever

Elizabeth Hudson, just another women who Labour do not care about!

Meanwhile Peter Lynch the grandfather with a heart condition sentenced to two years eight months for holding a placard denigrating the police and shouting abuse during the summer riots, killed himself in jail on Saturday.

This Government is crazy - and thoughtless!
All talk and no proper action - and no consideration of the people

It’s been all over the news about Peter Lynch. I saw a clip of his offences last night. He was filmed holding a placard and shouting ‘scum’ at the police. Apparently although shouting abuse, he was not violent and not convicted of violence. I thought the two year and eight months sentence extremely long for such an offence.
Does anyone know if he had a record already?

“Going to hell in a handcart” springs to mind…🤨

eazybee

Just watched a very angry Richard Madely and Susanna Reid interview Shabana Mahmood , who apparently believes early release is allowed on the offences committed, not on the offender. She was not aware of the protest by Elizabeth Hudson, whose ex-husband is one to be released early. His offences, holding a knife to her throat and threatening violence, subjected to a restraining order,don't qualify as being serious enough to remain in prison, as Ms Mahmmod smilingly said, but she will go back to the office and 'find out.' Jolly good.
Why has this prison release scheme been authorised so quickly when a launch of a six month review is only being launched today?

I hadn't read about this but just looked it up and apparently it's a "loophole" and it's by no means certain that he'll be released.

What is the "loophole" that may see Martin Underwood released 3 months early?
Is it because he was in for a different crime this time (having already served the time for her knife attack)?

Does anyone have the actual info please?
I don't understand.

We all must know that for many years most prisoners are already released after serving 50% of their term so though not ideal is presumably necessary in order to send more serious offenders into prison .

We have no idea how many of the earlier release (was it in July/August?) have committed new offences.

What we do know is the recall rates are apparently the same as any other released offenders/ex-offenders in the same timeframe - so that at least is good news (as far as it goes, obviously).

Rosie51
From what I understood it was a reduction of 10%
So if you were given 5 years by the courts you would previously have been eligible for release (all other things being equal) at the midway point - so 2½ years. This 50% time served is being reduced to 40% so in the case above, that would be 6 months "earlier" at 2 years.

These people will all be on licence and have specific conditions.
They will include cooperation with probation, may include not going to certain places, engaging with drug/alcohol services, living in a certain property etc. They will almost certainly all be having to wear an ankle monitor with a curfew.

If you are on license you can (technically) be recalled for any wrongdoing.
It may be something very minor.

From my understanding of the interview it was the offences that counted, not the offender, and his offences were not deemed to be serious enough to bar him from early release. Elizabeth Hudson said she had been notified of his early release, and she had written to three authorities (do not know which) and had received no response.
Shabana Mahmood seemed very ill-informed.
I cannot check my facts as it was a live interview on ITV but no doubt information will be available later.

silverlining48

We all must know that for many years most prisoners are already released after serving 50% of their term so though not ideal is presumably necessary in order to send more serious offenders into prison .

Is shouting ‘scum’ at the police a more serious offence though.
Obviously it’s not nice, in fact it’s horrible, but more serious? Really?

I understand the need to free up spaces in prisons being they're over-crowded but I can't understand why they release animal abusers, rapists etc. instead of non-violent but they'll happily jail you for the most ridiculously small things!

This Government give me the feeling that they are rushing things through without thorough consultation and consideration on the possible effects their decisions may have. They think that doing this will give the impression of a dynamic, active Government. Well, it doesn't. The early release of prisoners is a case in point. Too many mistakes were made with the first batch allowed out early and as much as I hate the phrase 'Lessons will be learned' I doubt Labour has learned anything if at all from that. I have a family member working on prison expansion to increase the prison population. 4 prisons have been identified but getting past that stage is proving nigh on impossible because obstacles are out in their way by.................The Government! You couldn't make it up.

TheWeirdo I seem to have missed a lot here - where is your info about releasing rapists and animal abusers from please?

Does anyone have the details?

No I don’t think shouting scum at police deserves 2 years in prison but none of us know the history if any, behind this.
It’s Very unusual to get a prison sentence as a first offender unless serious and of course, these riots were spreading fast.

What choices are there on the slightly earlier release to 40% from 50% when there is literally no room for some very serious offenders indeed currently in the system?

There is no choice.

That doesn't mean to say that proper scrutiny of the early releases should not be carried out, it most certainly should.

Sarnia you say, "I have a family member working on prison expansion to increase the prison population. 4 prisons have been identified but getting past that stage is proving nigh on impossible because obstacles are out in their way by.................The Government! You couldn't make it up."

I'm not aware of news on this front - what are the obstacles being put in their way?