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1100 prisoners to be released today.

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Lisaangel10 Tue 22-Oct-24 09:09:32

Great! What is Starmer thinking of?

1700 were released in September too and many went on to reoffend. Some were released wrongly!

Shinamae Wed 23-Oct-24 10:57:11

Mt61

Shinamae

“Going to hell in a handcart” springs to mind…🤨

You mean labour?

I mean, generally….

Mt61 Wed 23-Oct-24 10:57:49

Mt61

Can you imagine any silly sod throwing milkshake at Starmer - probably get a life sentence ( mind you, he probably won’t bother, as he gets his suits for free)

& that’s the 2nd milkshake NF has had thrown over him, what happened to the silly sod that threw concrete at him?
It doesn’t matter what political beliefs these politicians have, they don’t deserve to be pelted with milkshakes, concrete, eggs (two jags) or worse 😩

Athrawes Wed 23-Oct-24 11:07:53

Do some offenders still get community service orders? Many many years ago I was a Community Service Officer and it seemed to work quite well - though of course there was the odd one who broke the rules but that was rare. At least these people had reasonable work opportunities - if they ignored them then they did end up in prison but most seemed to do well.

spabbygirl Wed 23-Oct-24 11:34:15

too many people are in prison anyway, prison doesn't work offenders are better off treated in the community anyway

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 23-Oct-24 12:04:38

Sir Keir Starmer has said he is “really angry” after criminals released from prison early thanked him as they were picked up in luxury cars.

The Prime Minister said he was infuriated by the scenes outside jails which saw one prisoner who had been released early shout “big up Keir Starmer”.

He insisted that he had never wanted to sign off on the controversial early release scheme but had to because Britain’s jails were “at bursting point”.

Sir Keir was asked how he felt about criminals, who had been set free up to a year early, thanking him for signing off on their release.

In one instance a convicted armed kidnapper who was released early from jail shouted “big up Keir Starmer” as he posed on a new £150,000 Bentley.

The Prime Minister said: “I’m really angry about having to release these prisoners at all.

“I didn’t spend five years of my life as chief prosecutor putting people in prison in order to, as PM, have to release them because our prisons are overfilled.

Mt61 Wed 23-Oct-24 12:30:04

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Sir Keir Starmer has said he is “really angry” after criminals released from prison early thanked him as they were picked up in luxury cars.

The Prime Minister said he was infuriated by the scenes outside jails which saw one prisoner who had been released early shout “big up Keir Starmer”.

He insisted that he had never wanted to sign off on the controversial early release scheme but had to because Britain’s jails were “at bursting point”.

Sir Keir was asked how he felt about criminals, who had been set free up to a year early, thanking him for signing off on their release.

In one instance a convicted armed kidnapper who was released early from jail shouted “big up Keir Starmer” as he posed on a new £150,000 Bentley.

The Prime Minister said: “I’m really angry about having to release these prisoners at all.

“I didn’t spend five years of my life as chief prosecutor putting people in prison in order to, as PM, have to release them because our prisons are overfilled.

Really!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 23-Oct-24 12:33:14

So he says, today.

Mt61 Wed 23-Oct-24 12:36:27

I’ll be getting cctv, extra locks on our doors & windows, it will be like Fort Knox- not that I have anything of real value- just our lives! I think people lives have become cheap these days 😩

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Wyllow3 Wed 23-Oct-24 12:50:18

I don't see any alternative to releasing prisoners early, the Conservatives had to do the same and still would if still in power.

NotSpaghetti Wed 23-Oct-24 12:50:40

Mt61 I think that's over the top.
Being killed by someone you haven't let into your home in the ordinary way (as a husband or close friend) is such a ridiculously low risk!

If you genuinely think you need to do this - I think that maybe you aren't feeling very well.
Please get some help. flowers

Esmay Wed 23-Oct-24 12:52:36

I fear for women , who've been assaulted by husbands , boyfriends and partners .

Foxyferret Wed 23-Oct-24 13:02:50

It will be interesting to see what sentence that MP will get when he was videotaped telling people to go out and cut their throats.

Foxyferret Wed 23-Oct-24 13:10:13

I think his name is Ricky Jones and he was threatening the far right or Nazi scum as he described them.

orly Wed 23-Oct-24 13:10:22

Yvette Cooper is just being true to her word. Taking immediate action to solve the prison overcrowding problem. She's been just as tough on the illegal immigration crisis by granting an amnesty to 88000 already here and thousands more arrive each week.

Wyllow3 Wed 23-Oct-24 13:25:38

Foxyferret

It will be interesting to see what sentence that MP will get when he was videotaped telling people to go out and cut their throats.

He wasn't an MP Foxy, he was a councillor and action was immediately taken. It took a very quick google to check!

He already was suspended and has been arrested and charged by the Met police. He was held in custody not released and pleaded not guilty so is likely to be awaiting trial.

Wyllow3 Wed 23-Oct-24 13:31:34

His trial date is Jan 2025.

Foxyferret Wed 23-Oct-24 13:53:36

Ah, OK Wyllow3, my mistake. For some reason I thought he was an MP. I shall wait for the outcome of the trial in Jan.

petra Wed 23-Oct-24 14:46:01

There is an excellent piece on File on 4 today covering the let out on licence program.
The whole scheme is a farce.
A friend of ours was let out on licence. Then he was sent back to prison because of a false allegation made about him.
This call back happens instantly, no ifs or buts.
Like the prisoner in the above program it took nearly a year for the police to come up with no evidence to support the allegation that he had broken the conditions of his licence.
This has happened 3 times to the prisoner in the File on 4 programs. This means that if someone has it in for you it’s just a phone call away to get you taken back to prison.
As many of us know the probation service was washed down the plug hole when it was privatised= calibre of probation officers.

sharon103 Wed 23-Oct-24 15:23:09

Nonnato2

Dear god. The sooner this government is kicked out the better. We’ve got 5 years of this s..t. Unbelievable.

Agreed.
What next I wonder.

Allira Wed 23-Oct-24 15:50:27

Esmay

I fear for women , who've been assaulted by husbands , boyfriends and partners .

Yes, me too.

They are going to be constantly looking over their shoulder and frightened for their children if they have any.

Allira Wed 23-Oct-24 15:55:08

The Prime Minister said: “I’m really angry about having to release these prisoners at all.

“I didn’t spend five years of my life as chief prosecutor putting people in prison in order to, as PM, have to release them because our prisons are overfilled.

Really?

How many prisons have been closed in recent years? Several have been shut because they were considered not to be up to the standard required.
How odd, then, that our innocent children were forced to spend much of their lives in unsafe school buildings on the point of collapse.

Wyllow3 Wed 23-Oct-24 15:57:47

Need - Petra and Allira - there is an awful lot of work to be done!

Petra you are so right about the need for a really adequate Probation Service.

Allira Wed 23-Oct-24 16:05:35

Wyllow3

Need - Petra and Allira - there is an awful lot of work to be done!

Petra you are so right about the need for a really adequate Probation Service.

As well as the need for staff, of course.

But just how inadequate are some of these substantially built older prisons?
I'll wager that they are in a better state than many schools and could be refurbished.

Allira Wed 23-Oct-24 16:06:19

As well as the need for staff, of course.
I meant more prison staff