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Back when things were sane

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Macadia Fri 25-Oct-24 08:41:45

I love Obama and the late Queen

youtu.be/I1aSSu1bfVY

Allira Mon 28-Oct-24 19:13:26

Tucker Carlson, a supporter of Trump, alleged that Samoan- Malaysians had low IQs.

It was an attempt to slur Kamala Harris but he just succeeded in showing his own IQ must be much lower than he thinks.

jasper16 Mon 28-Oct-24 18:47:49

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And on this side of the pond Sir Keir Starmer has suffered the biggest fall in approval rating after winning an election of any prime minister in the modern era, a poll has shown.

Sir Keir’s approval rating was at a high of plus 11 in July after Labour won the election with a landslide 174-seat majority – the biggest in 25 years – according to the poll, by More in Common.

But by this month, ahead of Rachel Reeves’ Budget on Wednesday, his personal rating hads fallen to -38 – a net drop of 49.

It takes him below Rishi Sunak’s rating, which this month has improved from -37 when he lost the election to -31, according to the poll of 1,012 adults.

In comparison, Sir Tony Blair’s approval was still at plus 46 in August 1997, three months after his landslide victory, when the figure stood at plus 60. It took until summer 2000 before his rating turned negative.

What's that got to do with supporting Trump please?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 28-Oct-24 18:19:59

And on this side of the pond Sir Keir Starmer has suffered the biggest fall in approval rating after winning an election of any prime minister in the modern era, a poll has shown.

Sir Keir’s approval rating was at a high of plus 11 in July after Labour won the election with a landslide 174-seat majority – the biggest in 25 years – according to the poll, by More in Common.

But by this month, ahead of Rachel Reeves’ Budget on Wednesday, his personal rating hads fallen to -38 – a net drop of 49.

It takes him below Rishi Sunak’s rating, which this month has improved from -37 when he lost the election to -31, according to the poll of 1,012 adults.

In comparison, Sir Tony Blair’s approval was still at plus 46 in August 1997, three months after his landslide victory, when the figure stood at plus 60. It took until summer 2000 before his rating turned negative.

Greciangirl Mon 28-Oct-24 17:04:09

Trump’s policies are vile, just like the man himself.

He needs to be stopped.

Greciangirl Mon 28-Oct-24 17:00:33

Trump!!!!!

Do me a favour.

We are in trouble if he gets in and so will a lot of other nations.

Janiepops Mon 28-Oct-24 16:31:57

I also dislike Trump intensely, he’s a misogynistic, chauvinistic, self important , vain man. He can’t read people, he can’t read the room. I find him slimy orange morally bankrupt, but, if I was voting in America, I would vote for his policies, his actions, and incredible love and passion for his country.
The human race do it ALL the time…..”oh I can’t vote Tory cos I hate Boris”, I can’t vote Labour I hate Corbin.” We are voting for the policies, beliefs, actions and attitudes of a party, NOT a person! They are only sitting at the top of the table,but are surrounded by the ‘voted in’ decision makers. Trump is a vile man, but people love what he stands for, simples……as do I.

EEJit Mon 28-Oct-24 15:39:46

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I find I’ve warmed to King Charles.
And I hope Trump wins the US presidential election.

God forbid that egomaniac wins again. I can't stand the way he speaks, the looks he pulls on his face, the disrespect he shows to others. I thought our lot were bad enough but he's much worse.

sazz1 Mon 28-Oct-24 15:16:11

I detest Charles and Cammie and always will. I can't forgive them for ruining Diana's life because he never loved her at all.
I respected the late queen she was a wonderful lady. Don't think much of Kate or William never liked them
Don't actually care who wins the USA election the only one I liked was Obama as he introduced Obama care to help poorer people.
Putin needs to go as hes definitely a serial killer, and Russia needs to withdraw from Ukraine asap. Israel and Palestinian need to divide the land equally, release all hostages, both have their own govenments, customs border control etc and become 2 peaceful nations.
The UK needs a new PM and government who are caring to poor people and stop fleecing pensioners. We need a republic to save money.
There all sorted .... if only

grandtanteJE65 Mon 28-Oct-24 14:09:31

Indigo8

Back when things were sane? When was that then?

Sometime before Munich!

Kayteetay1 Mon 28-Oct-24 14:06:42

Why on earth would you want Trump to become president?

vegansrock Mon 28-Oct-24 13:48:31

Trump appeals more to men with a low level of education - that’s the demographic he wants to get out to vote.

Foxyferret Mon 28-Oct-24 13:18:29

It’s a shame that the U.S have only these two to choose from. I think they think that Trump is the lesser evil than the cackling, grinning Harris. She appears to be high or drunk in a lot of her interviews.

Mojack26 Mon 28-Oct-24 12:57:41

Ditto! My daughter and I were just saying that about the late queen. Not the same without her. Yes same with the Obamas...Intelligent, Classy and Caring.. unlike Trump!

Whitewavemark2 Mon 28-Oct-24 12:45:33

I’ve just been listening to a podcast about the USA election. The opinion there was that if Trump does loose. (50-50 at the moment), they think that he is unlikely to call for any form of insurrection because he is being sentenced at the end of November, and he won’t risk a stiffer sentence.

Hmm.

Oreo Mon 28-Oct-24 10:17:06

Whatever we think about men liking DT or women liking him, it’s a fact that so many will vote for him that the US election will be very close.

Grandmaofone Mon 28-Oct-24 10:08:12

Reagan Thatcher Gorbachev when the world felt safe -
so long ago

Sarnia Mon 28-Oct-24 08:15:06

jasper16

Women like him? Men like him?

I don't think so.

What is there to like?

I can't find anything likeable about him. However, he has a large following of fiercely loyal supporters who back him whatever he does. It's a shame Biden left it as late as he did to step down. Had he given the Democrats more time they may have been able to put forward a stronger candidate than Harris. It still baffles me that in a country the size of the USA, neither Party can come up with younger and far more acceptable candidates.

jasper16 Mon 28-Oct-24 07:57:42

Women like him? Men like him?

I don't think so.

What is there to like?

Macadia Mon 28-Oct-24 04:25:32

bump

Dickens Sun 27-Oct-24 23:48:58

Whitewavemark2

dickens and yet at least 50% of women in the USA disagree with Trump’s policies.

Harris is leading amongst women.

America had the biggest feminist movement in the world when I was growing up.

Their culture is different to European culture, but not that different.

... and yet at least 50% of women in the USA disagree with Trump’s policies.

- hopefully more by November.

I was just responding re the mindset or whatever it is that makes those women who do support him - able to ignore his (IMO) blatant sexism.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Oct-24 21:38:43

Summerlove

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Very interesting post Dickens thank you. It explains much as to why Trump is popular with some women. That said he’s polling strongly. Men like him too it seems. I think he’ll win.

It’s so interesting how we read the same thing and came out with two totally different thoughts

I cannot for the life of me understand why women like him.

I totally understand why some men do.

But it isn’t true. The majority of women do not support Trump.

And with very good reason.

Summerlove Sun 27-Oct-24 21:27:21

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Very interesting post Dickens thank you. It explains much as to why Trump is popular with some women. That said he’s polling strongly. Men like him too it seems. I think he’ll win.

It’s so interesting how we read the same thing and came out with two totally different thoughts

I cannot for the life of me understand why women like him.

I totally understand why some men do.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Oct-24 21:13:29

Very interesting post Dickens thank you. It explains much as to why Trump is popular with some women. That said he’s polling strongly. Men like him too it seems. I think he’ll win.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Oct-24 20:58:55

dickens and yet at least 50% of women in the USA disagree with Trump’s policies.

Harris is leading amongst women.

America had the biggest feminist movement in the world when I was growing up.

Their culture is different to European culture, but not that different.

Cumbrianmale56 Sun 27-Oct-24 19:31:48

I think the country was most at ease with itself from the mid nineties to the early noughties( the period between the early nineties recession and the war in Iraq). Opinions seemed far less polarised, there was Cool Britannia, people seemed more optimistic, and living standards were rising. Also you had all these new, exciting things like the internet, mobile phones and DVDs.