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Its Keir Starmer, not Kier Starmer

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Wyllow3 Fri 25-Oct-24 10:13:33

Why do some posters constantly fail to be able to spell his name correctly? Surely we have noticed our PM is Keir after all this time? There is no such name as "Kier".

escaped Sun 27-Oct-24 17:17:10

We had apéritifs at a posh luncheon today, and forgetting I wasn't in France, I very nearly asked for a kir. We've not had that word yet, have we? 🥂 cheers Kir Starmer!

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 16:49:58

And the comparative adjective spicier.
The students to whom I teach English try to tell me the French language is harder. Wait until we get to spelling and pronunciation I say.....

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 16:32:44

I think the ie after c mostly applies if the sound is ee. But then species....

Mollygo Sun 27-Oct-24 16:16:28

ordinarygirl

when I first began school and had to write about my family, I put my brother's name as Keith. The teacher crossed it out and put Kieth. why dos the I before E still continue?

It would be indeed be easier to learn that
c always needs ei that way round , when you think of the other ei words like eight, height, feint, heifer, foreign, seize, weird, their, etc. There have been lots of attempts to add spelling rules to help.
I suppose i before e except after c stuck because it’s a rhyme.

ordinarygirl Sun 27-Oct-24 14:57:56

when I first began school and had to write about my family, I put my brother's name as Keith. The teacher crossed it out and put Kieth. why dos the I before E still continue?

Mollygo Sun 27-Oct-24 14:08:55

Grunty

Difficult to have a positive attitude towards someone who targeted one of the most vulnerable sectors of society for the harshest of cuts as his first priority.

That certainly deserved the
QED

However, I’m not convinced that Starmer would really be heartened by a one woman fan club, so I don’t understand why that got a QED.

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Oct-24 13:42:01

I was glad to see that opposition. Quite a healthy sign, I'd say, shows we don't all think the same.
You are right about tax evasion.

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 13:29:14

Tackle tax evasion before penalising pensioners.

I realise not all need the WFA but Most L Party supporters I know of in GN have also said the cut off point for WFA was too low and it's been brought up in L party meetings. We're honest enough to say "this was done OK, this, we don't agree with.

The Unions were against this too. It's not a good sign when the Unions condemn Labour for something they did in the first weeks of office.

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Oct-24 13:08:19

Most L Party supporters I know of in GN have also said the cut off point for WFA was too low and it's been brought up in L party meetings. We're honest enough to say "this was done OK, this, we don't agree with.

In the dire situation in June I think everyone knew there weren't any easy solutions. How will we fund the NHS? How to bring prison numbers into line with convictions? What about care services? How best to improve schools?

The Conservatives have no policies currently I'm aware of that might offer different solutions. I wish they would, maybe there are some alternatives going forward.

In this tough environment it's easy to just condemn the present government without addressing how we can raise the money to put somethings as right as they can be.

Sarcasm doesn't present solutions. It has a part to play in political life and always has, but doesn't help us make things better in society.

It doesnt pay for the NHS (how can that be done without an increase win taxes?) it doesnt pay for a half decent justice system, it doesn't pay for the new nursery places in schools, it doesn't improve the care system, it doesnt help those using food banks, it doesn't help any sort of levelling up...

MayBee70 Sun 27-Oct-24 12:52:59

Grunty

^I very much doubt that many people on here want to see him in a different light sad…^

Difficult to have a positive attitude towards someone who targeted one of the most vulnerable sectors of society for the harshest of cuts as his first priority. But I'm sure he'll be heartened by your one-woman fan club.

QED

Grunty Sun 27-Oct-24 12:18:21

I very much doubt that many people on here want to see him in a different light sad…

Difficult to have a positive attitude towards someone who targeted one of the most vulnerable sectors of society for the harshest of cuts as his first priority. But I'm sure he'll be heartened by your one-woman fan club.

Mollygo Sun 27-Oct-24 12:02:50

Actually, reading the Tom Bowman will endorse your thoughts about Starmer, whichever viewpoint you hold.

MayBee70 Sun 27-Oct-24 11:46:46

Mamie

nanna8

I don’t think he relates to people at all. But then politicians rarely do, they are in a little world of their own. Sad really.

Have you read the Tom Bowman biography of Keir Starmer nanna8? It is available on Kindle.
I think if you did, you would find plenty of evidence to see him in a different light.

I very much doubt that many people on here want to see him in a different light sad

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 08:43:03

escaped

I noticed so many of those type of books yesterday in Waterstones - Starmer, Truss, Boris (no Rishi?). They seem to have replaced the Royal Family ones on the shelves. Do you think people like them as Christmas presents?

I certainly enjoy political biographies; the Sonia Purnell one about Johnson was fascinating.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Oct-24 08:38:43

I bought Boris’ ‘Unleashed’ just for myself last week. Thoroughly entertaining. A real treat. I dip in and out reading and chuckling at a few pages in between reading a novel.

escaped Sun 27-Oct-24 08:18:57

I noticed so many of those type of books yesterday in Waterstones - Starmer, Truss, Boris (no Rishi?). They seem to have replaced the Royal Family ones on the shelves. Do you think people like them as Christmas presents?

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 07:28:47

nanna8

I don’t think he relates to people at all. But then politicians rarely do, they are in a little world of their own. Sad really.

Have you read the Tom Bowman biography of Keir Starmer nanna8? It is available on Kindle.
I think if you did, you would find plenty of evidence to see him in a different light.

nanna8 Sun 27-Oct-24 06:36:46

I don’t think he relates to people at all. But then politicians rarely do, they are in a little world of their own. Sad really.

OldFrill Sun 27-Oct-24 00:18:37

There's none more Kier than folk

TakeThat7 Sat 26-Oct-24 19:42:41

Absolutely don't care how Starmers name is spelt He isn't due any respect They haven't done anything to improve lives just the opposite Ready to destroy right to buy this next week takingaway one dream for working people Angela having made a good profit on hers Done nothing to make train travel safe again on Sundays train after train still being cancelled and everyone with children risking them being çrushed on thefew running Thenthe ridiculous bbc licence They are supposed to represent the working class How about at least halfing the licence I'm not aware they have done anything decent yet I don't care how his name is spelt He clearly doesnt care about the public

Grunty Sat 26-Oct-24 19:31:17

He's lucky if he only gets his Christian name misspelt; my spellchecker will insist on changing his surname to Starker. For which I need brain bleach.

Mollygo Sat 26-Oct-24 19:25:17

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Spinnaker
Grunty
For as long as I have the right to freedom of speech, I will continue to be as rude, disrespectful or disparaging about any politicians that I disagree with. Just as you were as was I and many others about Truss, BoJo, Cummings and Hancock. Difference being that I don't recall seeing you being outraged about the totally disrespectful vitriol playground bullying then. Wonder what's changed? hmm

Well said 👏

Totally agree with this.

Likewise

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Oct-24 19:22:14

Spinnaker

Grunty

For as long as I have the right to freedom of speech, I will continue to be as rude, disrespectful or disparaging about any politicians that I disagree with. Just as you were as was I and many others about Truss, BoJo, Cummings and Hancock. Difference being that I don't recall seeing you being outraged about the totally disrespectful vitriol playground bullying then. Wonder what's changed? hmm

Well said 👏

Totally agree with this.

Mollygo Sat 26-Oct-24 19:14:59

OldFrill

Its Keir Starmer, not Kier Starmer
Its It's not its but who keirs

🤣🤣🤣

Oreo Sat 26-Oct-24 17:50:36

Keir in the community?