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Will Messrs Reeves and Raynor Still Be Around This Time Next Year?

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mae13 Sun 27-Oct-24 08:58:02

Sir Keir's ratings have nosedived so badly since the election that I wonder which moves he might be planning for his first Cabinet re-shuffle.
He strikes me as having an underlying ruthless streak and won't hesitate to jettison certain unpopular "comrades" in order to shore up his own position.
Whenever I see a media photo of Keir, Angela and Rachel grinning idiotically at each other I just have to think "I bet two of you will have got your P45's by next year......"

MissAdventure Sun 27-Oct-24 11:35:58

Well, that'll suit some people, I'd imagine.

eazybee Sun 27-Oct-24 11:34:29

Angela Rayner was elected by part(y) members and unions
presumably meaning her position as Deputy Prime Minister, way beyond her limited capabilities. It will be interesting to see what happens if Starmer attempts to demote her; it will reveal who really runs the Labour party.

Curious tho - why do we get no O/P's on opposition politicians/policies? Its easy enough to criticise instead of saying, "this is what we should be doing instead"

Because it is what Labour are doing in the immediate present which will affect us; opposition policies at have no hope of being implemented at this time..

So is it Mesdames Rayner and Reeves then?
Sounds a bit like ladies running a brothel at the Moulin Rouge. grin grin

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Oct-24 11:33:27

Yes, but where is the debate between the two candidates? What do they stand for? What policies have they on the serious problems the country face?

Visgir1 Sun 27-Oct-24 11:29:02

The Tory list isn't shut until 31st Oct.

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 10:59:18

😂

Yes, I'll count myself in there too.

escaped Sun 27-Oct-24 10:50:06

Allira

^Because they don't seem able to get their act together.^

I mean the Tories, not Gransnetters 😁

😂

Quite probably the latter. Counting myself too!

escaped Sun 27-Oct-24 10:48:14

Oui bien sûr Mamie. It was the alliteration that got me thinking, Mesdames R & R. Or a pop/rock band!

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 10:46:04

Because they don't seem able to get their act together.

I mean the Tories, not Gransnetters 😁

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 10:45:23

Wyllow3

Cossy

Who knows?? Let’s wait until after the budget and give these guys a fighting chance to put in place their pledges and policies. The wheels of government turn very slowly, as I know only too well having spent the last 14 years of my working life as a CS!

This, more or less.

Curious tho - why do we get no O/P's on opposition politicians/policies? Its easy enough to criticise instead of saying, "this is what we should be doing instead"

Because they don't seem able to get their act together.

What is going on with the leadership contest anyway?
How long before the sh*t hits the fan (excuse the expression!)

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 10:42:18

escaped

So is it Mesdames Rayner and Reeves then?

Soundsa bit like ladies running a brothel at the Moulin Rouge.

Or perhaps more accurately it is the plural of the word used for the French adult female population.

Jaxjacky Sun 27-Oct-24 10:37:53

That made me laugh Mamie 🤣🤣

escaped Sun 27-Oct-24 10:33:34

So is it Mesdames Rayner and Reeves then?

Soundsa bit like ladies running a brothel at the Moulin Rouge.

silverlining48 Sun 27-Oct-24 10:13:22

Am with you Trueloveways.

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 10:09:24

Jane43

Indigo8

Do they both identify as male now? I thought Messrs was the pleural form of Mr but I am probably wrong, as usual.

You are correct. I spent years typing out bank statements and Messrs was used to address two or more males, usually in a business context. It is derived from the French ‘Messieurs’ which is the plural of Monsieur.

In French the plural abbreviation is MM.
I had a friend who took their French SatNav to the UK and it thought the M was for Monsieur. So "take the M25" became "Prenez Monsieur vingt-cinq". 😂

Jane43 Sun 27-Oct-24 09:59:26

Indigo8

Do they both identify as male now? I thought Messrs was the pleural form of Mr but I am probably wrong, as usual.

You are correct. I spent years typing out bank statements and Messrs was used to address two or more males, usually in a business context. It is derived from the French ‘Messieurs’ which is the plural of Monsieur.

ronib Sun 27-Oct-24 09:58:07

Mollygo what is the point of destroying the farming industry? Why? Another woke aspiration in the name of global warming? Why not ban cars? You can cycle or walk everywhere?

Mamie Sun 27-Oct-24 09:52:46

Indigo8

Do they both identify as male now? I thought Messrs was the pleural form of Mr but I am probably wrong, as usual.

I am pretty sure it is an anglophone corruption of Messieurs.

Trueloveways Sun 27-Oct-24 09:51:03

They’ll still be around in 10 years, hopefully, and this country will be in a much better position. I’m just thankful that the last bunch have finally been outed after 14 years.

Mollygo Sun 27-Oct-24 09:48:42

He’s happy in his bubble that a 5 year term gives him.
He’s trying to make up for not knowing what a woman is, by having females in prominent roles (good idea).
Leaks have already been pouring out about all but a few items in the budget (evidently normal practice).
He has a strong defence group for anything he or his party does.
ronib
I am a bit put out that there are calls to limit meat and dairy consumption by 50 per cent to cut down on methane emissions
According to my sources, that may be another leak put out to assess public opinion. It’s evidently not going to apply to the subsidised meals in the HoC.

It would make sense though. Destroying consumption will damage the farming industry, but so what?
We can also vaunt our green credentials by pushing solar power which is good, but uses stuff made almost completely from coal powered factories in places like China.

karmalady Sun 27-Oct-24 09:44:31

Raynor and Lammy, Reeves is all smoke and mirrors, she may well replace flip flop kier when X finally releases the information

Indigo8 Sun 27-Oct-24 09:43:35

Do they both identify as male now? I thought Messrs was the pleural form of Mr but I am probably wrong, as usual.

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Oct-24 09:42:14

Cossy

Who knows?? Let’s wait until after the budget and give these guys a fighting chance to put in place their pledges and policies. The wheels of government turn very slowly, as I know only too well having spent the last 14 years of my working life as a CS!

This, more or less.

Curious tho - why do we get no O/P's on opposition politicians/policies? Its easy enough to criticise instead of saying, "this is what we should be doing instead"

MissAdventure Sun 27-Oct-24 09:41:41

smile
I thought it must be meant for someone else.

Doodledog Sun 27-Oct-24 09:41:23

Patsy70

Sorry, MissAdventure, that was in answer to mae13, not you. 😊

grin

Patsy70 Sun 27-Oct-24 09:40:34

Sorry, MissAdventure, that was in answer to mae13, not you. 😊