Sir K claims "a budget for Working People", ha!!!

And yet the Labour party seem unable to come up with a definition for 'working people'

Wait til Wednesday

Am I the only one to be completely baffled that someone who in a previous existence was a barrister and QC cannot clearly articulate what he means by a "working person"?

I’m completely baffled that mael3 feels the need to start so many threads in just a few days all saying basically the same thing. Contributions are better and more varied when there are more people on less threads covering the same subject.

No mention on here of money being put towards clearing hospital waiting lists, rebuilding schools that have fallen into disrepair over the past 14 years I see. Free breakfasts for primary school children etc etc.

Am reserving judgement until the Budget really but am feeling a bit worried tbh.

In my opinion Keir Starmer cannot clearly articulate at all.

Hope no one ever asks him what a working woman is

Spinnaker .

He’s an ex barrister /politician. Not a stand up comedian. We had one of those and he didn’t just damage the country he destroyed his own party.

I think that's the problem; an inarticulate ex barrister.

And yet the Labour party seem unable to come up with a definition for 'working people'

Well that would correlate with their similar confusion as to the definition of who has a cervix wouldn't it?

It shows a total lack of judgement to use a phrase without being able to explain what it means - and without realising how many people he was going to insult by implying that they don't work.

We will all know who working people are on Wednesday if we don’t already. The media always do scenarios of how ‘average’ people will be affected, I’m sure this year will be no different.

MayBee70

No mention on here of money being put towards clearing hospital waiting lists, rebuilding schools that have fallen into disrepair over the past 14 years I see. Free breakfasts for primary school children etc etc.

Well can't say anything about broken, hospital waiting lists of 18 months cut by 91%, A and E waiting times improved, despite increase in EA. Lots of improvements, community diagnostic centres, one in my local shopping centre. See this data is easily accessible. All due to NHS nothing to do with Starmer and crew who haven't been in power 5 mins. Free breakfasts been going on for years. Pandemic remember. Two new schools being built here, planned and executed end of last year. So plans that were laid under Conservatives, and our Conservative council coming to fruition.

Freya5

MayBee70

No mention on here of money being put towards clearing hospital waiting lists, rebuilding schools that have fallen into disrepair over the past 14 years I see. Free breakfasts for primary school children etc etc.

Well can't say anything about broken, hospital waiting lists of 18 months cut by 91%, A and E waiting times improved, despite increase in EA. Lots of improvements, community diagnostic centres, one in my local shopping centre. See this data is easily accessible. All due to NHS nothing to do with Starmer and crew who haven't been in power 5 mins. Free breakfasts been going on for years. Pandemic remember. Two new schools being built here, planned and executed end of last year. So plans that were laid under Conservatives, and our Conservative council coming to fruition.

Yes, free breakfast clubs started under the last Labour government didn’t they Freya5, not this one - but thankfully there will now be a lot more of them.

When we get back to NHS waiting lists and A&E waits at the level they were in 2010 across the whole of the UK I’ll be much happier, it means nothing when one area is good but another is terrible.

Meanwhile the school building backlog maintenance and replacement programme is suffering the effect of years of under-investment nationally too.

It’s not all about your, mine or others’ personal experience, it’s about a common higher standard of service.

So, one minute Labour have only been in power for five minutes so anything good that’s happened is due to the previous government. But the next minute they’re to blame for everything bad that’s happened ( or things that people want to happen that haven’t) because they’ve been in power for how many months: 16’ish. Which one is it?

Keir Starmer will class himself as a working person earning a large salary but someone who owns a shop working 12 hours a day and making substantially less is, according to Starmer, not a working person.

Not forgetting the, long parliamentary summer break until last month ….so not much time, but one of the first things they did was to sort out the doctors strikes which had gone on for so long.

AGAA4

Keir Starmer will class himself as a working person earning a large salary but someone who owns a shop working 12 hours a day and making substantially less is, according to Starmer, not a working person.

I don’t think he will do that. I think he is going to introduce policies that will benefit the lowest paid most, and not benefit those who earn high salaries. He will not benefit personally if that’s what happens.

I wonder how "strivers and skivers", "hard-working families" and the "just about managing" will fare in the budget. I suppose some of them could be the same people.

Well the strivers and skivers", "hard-working families" and the "just about managing", and even the pensioners on nothing more than their state pension, will have to stump up and sort out their own tax returns as they get pulled in to the fiscal drag. Unlike Ms Reeves who has just put in a claim for the £1225 that she paid someone else to do hers. Fair enough to employ someone qualified to do that but getting tax payers to pay for it stinks.

I agree Grunty when we were in business we couldn't claim for our personal tax returns and rightly so.

Grunty

Well the strivers and skivers", "hard-working families" and the "just about managing", and even the pensioners on nothing more than their state pension, will have to stump up and sort out their own tax returns as they get pulled in to the fiscal drag. Unlike Ms Reeves who has just put in a claim for the £1225 that she paid someone else to do hers. Fair enough to employ someone qualified to do that but getting tax payers to pay for it stinks.

How is Ms Reeves' expense account relevant to anything?

I thought people grew out of "Miss, miss, it's all somebody else's fault" when they left primary schools.