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Tommy Robinson jailed for contempt of court

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Jaxjacky Mon 28-Oct-24 15:12:02

Sky News; good in my opinion.

Namsnanny Thu 31-Oct-24 11:21:09

They dont have to, the Gov is happily pushing the pedal in that direction.
Any sensible person would draw less attention to him, not more, if they want him to disappear.

Growstuff are you an anarchist?
made me laugh🤣 no just someone who wants the country which was known for tolerance and free speech to become that again.
Not be turned into a semi communist state where by we cant speak because the laws are deliberately opaque so as to he unclear what the legal boundaries are.

Thus country has crossed the Rubicon.
MPs told they cant raise questions, Christians prosecuted for thinking, others on social media having inflated charges and sentences to make the rest of us frightened to speak out.

I do wish people could see the parties we used to vote for have changed, and none deserve our support.

Wyllow3 Thu 31-Oct-24 10:40:37

Tommy Robinsons followers busy making him into a martyr.

Galaxy Thu 31-Oct-24 10:26:04

Latest article by Paul Embrey, who possibly should be made leader of the western world grin, is good at balancing the need for due process and the fundamental principle of innocent until proven guilty, with raising questions about the way it was handled.

Galaxy Thu 31-Oct-24 10:18:49

Yes I saw that. Similar happened with Hugh Edwards. Lots of people didnt like people talking about that either.

Wyllow3 Thu 31-Oct-24 10:02:51

(Posters might not be aware that a thread on the southport references was deleted in its entirety as it was speculation on an ongoing case where judge had requested respect for due process etc)

I've just checked Tommy Robinson X supporters and they are attempting to drag it in and make comparisons in a most nasty way, best left?

Iam64 Thu 31-Oct-24 08:31:59

Previous convictions will rightly be considered when bail or sentencing is considered. There’s no comparison between the Southport murderer and SYL and linking them in some kind of deluded attempt to minimise the risks posed by SYL is shocking

MissInterpreted Wed 30-Oct-24 15:31:33

And rightly so...

Wyllow3 Wed 30-Oct-24 14:42:57

When sentencing, the prior records of that individual are taken into account.

Belmarsh is " The prison is used for high-profile cases, particularly those concerning national security"

Robinson is on the UK individuals "watch list".

growstuff Wed 30-Oct-24 14:34:04

Namsnanny

Record do not count.

Each offence is or should be, judged on it's own merit.

I say again love or loath TR, everyone with an interest on equality before the law should think long and hard about this sentence.

Why?

He got what he deserved for disobeying a court order.

growstuff Wed 30-Oct-24 14:33:12

Namsnanny

I've just realized that ofcourse his case was a civil case, not criminal (it didnt sink in for me that contempt of court is not considered criminal).

He has been confined in Belmarsh Prison, I believe it is for the worst offenders of criminal offences. Such as murder, the worst kinds of sex offences etc.

Strange that the authorities feel comfortable with putting someone guilty of a civil crime in with the countries worst criminals.
Axel Rudakubana is in there.

Like TR or loath him, one killed undefended children, the other filmed a documentary and released it.

Anyone who wants to live in a country where anyone of any political persuasion, of any religion, of any colour, is treated in this manner without questioning why, is deluded in my view.

So don't you believe that people should comply with the law of the land?

Are you an anarchist?

jasper16 Wed 30-Oct-24 14:28:36

Namsnanny

I've just realized that ofcourse his case was a civil case, not criminal (it didnt sink in for me that contempt of court is not considered criminal).

He has been confined in Belmarsh Prison, I believe it is for the worst offenders of criminal offences. Such as murder, the worst kinds of sex offences etc.

Strange that the authorities feel comfortable with putting someone guilty of a civil crime in with the countries worst criminals.
Axel Rudakubana is in there.

Like TR or loath him, one killed undefended children, the other filmed a documentary and released it.

Anyone who wants to live in a country where anyone of any political persuasion, of any religion, of any colour, is treated in this manner without questioning why, is deluded in my view.

Don't be so silly. Stop slithering around. SYS is an out and out racist. That is his raison d'etre. To hate and stir up hate.

What on earth has that got to do with the absolute tragedy that occurred in Southport?

MissInterpreted Wed 30-Oct-24 14:06:46

Of course each case should be judged on its merits, but his record does stand for itself. I have a very thorough knowledge on the law of contempt of court - it's something I dealt with on a daily basis throughout my career. I have no qualms whatsoever about his sentence. He is a thoroughly vile individual who thinks he is above the law, and quite frankly, he deserves everything he gets.

Namsnanny Wed 30-Oct-24 14:03:48

Record do not count.

Each offence is or should be, judged on it's own merit.

I say again love or loath TR, everyone with an interest on equality before the law should think long and hard about this sentence.

MissInterpreted Wed 30-Oct-24 13:49:19

Contempt of court may not be a criminal offence, but let's not disregard the fact that SYL does have a lengthy criminal record, which includes assaulting a police office, fraud, public order offences and possession of drugs.

Namsnanny Wed 30-Oct-24 13:25:45

I've just realized that ofcourse his case was a civil case, not criminal (it didnt sink in for me that contempt of court is not considered criminal).

He has been confined in Belmarsh Prison, I believe it is for the worst offenders of criminal offences. Such as murder, the worst kinds of sex offences etc.

Strange that the authorities feel comfortable with putting someone guilty of a civil crime in with the countries worst criminals.
Axel Rudakubana is in there.

Like TR or loath him, one killed undefended children, the other filmed a documentary and released it.

Anyone who wants to live in a country where anyone of any political persuasion, of any religion, of any colour, is treated in this manner without questioning why, is deluded in my view.

whywhywhy Wed 30-Oct-24 02:07:09

Good riddance to him!

DrWatson Wed 30-Oct-24 01:21:14

For Lady Gracie -- "scapegoat"?? HOW?? In this instance, he was repeatedly caught telling lies, and went right back to them when he felt like it. Hence he's been further jailed for breaking that undertaking.

He should STAY IN JAIL until he removes all of his online poison from wherever it's been placed. You must be supremely gullible.

Grantanow Tue 29-Oct-24 23:32:41

Robinson was clearly guilty of contempt and got what he deserved. End of story.

Galaxy Tue 29-Oct-24 21:37:25

Do you think this is an effective approach? I mean you cant can you?

Babs03 Tue 29-Oct-24 21:24:38

Would continue but am tired with this now, and if this isn't enough perhaps present far right extremists will be only too willing to provide doubters with more instances in the future.
The thing is not all terrorists, murderers, rapists, and pedos are foreign, we are more than able to supply our very own home grown variety.

Babs03 Tue 29-Oct-24 21:20:21

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/25/zack-davies-racist-guilty-attempted-murder-dentist

Far right attempted murder

growstuff Tue 29-Oct-24 21:19:10

Babs03 I knew the list wasn't complete. Not only that but there's been a increase in convictions since 2022. The media don't tend to cover them.

Babs03 Tue 29-Oct-24 21:17:32

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/23/thomas-mair-found-guilty-of-jo-cox-murder

Far right terrorism

Babs03 Tue 29-Oct-24 21:16:22

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_London_nail_bombings

Far right terrorism

Galaxy Tue 29-Oct-24 21:04:41

Yes that's exactly what I think Growstuff. Sigh.
Threads move on, the riots for example are related to TR and to free speech and to a hundred other reasons.