Could Kamala Harris Sue Trump For Slander?

Galaxy

If you are now saying we have to control our speech not because it is wrong but because of how some people may interpret it then I am more scared of that than anything Trump could say.

So you'd be comfortable if he'd said that about you? We know some of his followers are violent and unbalanced, we only need to look at 6th January to see that very clearly and yes we have to take responsibility for what we say.

I'll give you an example, I used to work in an organisation that cared for people with serious mental health issues. I was on the admin side but when I started I did the induction that all staff did. One of the first things we were told, it might have been the first, was be careful what you say and he went on to illustrate it like this, you are working with a colleague and you are annoyed at something he has done so say he's left the milk out again and it has gone sour so no milk for cereal or tea for breakfast. In your exasperation you say you'd like to throttle him, you don't mean it, it is a throw away remark. Half an hour later one of the men you care for come to you smiling and tell you not to worry, he's throttled him for you. As adults we do need to be responsible, you think Trump was being responsible I think he wasn't. I only hope that woman doesn't get shot in the face.

Wyllow3

As in when, M61?

She always bad mouthing him

I know. Doesn't exactly help though.

That's not the point I am making. It is that that sort of language has been used since wars began.

There was a far higher death rate among officers in WW1

We cant possibly have any conversations about war and its futility can we?, 'it is the officer class who sit in safety, I wonder what would happens if it was their sons being shot at?'
Do you think the above means people are wishing the sons of officers should be shot. Of course context is important, unless you want all ideas and thinking to be so banal no one is able to explore issues.

If you are now saying we have to control our speech not because it is wrong but because of how some people may interpret it then I am more scared of that than anything Trump could say.

As in when, M61?

MaizieD

theworriedwell

petra

theworriedwell

No the context doesn't make it OK for me. He knows what his followers are like and that remark was dangerous. Then again he is a dangerous man fullstop.

This video might help you to understand the context

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6z0ztrj44

Please don't patronise me, it is incredibly rude. I understand quite well how people are seeking to justify what he said but suggesting to his gun toting supporters, who tried to kill Pence for him, that she needs to be shot in the face is not OK.

That isn't exactly what he said. Did you read what Dickens pointed out on the other thread?

I don't like Trump, either, but the context made it clearer.

He said, “Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” Trump said. “And let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

Do you think some of his extreme supporters are going to be worrying about context? He knows how his people react and he should act responsibly.

Galaxy

I dont know how to explain it any more than I have.

A man who is a leader of some very odd gun toting people suggested shooting a woman in her face. Do you seriously think they are going to be weighing up the context or thinking "Donald wants her shot in the face." He needs to be more responsible, like I said earlier he nearly got Pence killed.

theworriedwell

petra

theworriedwell

No the context doesn't make it OK for me. He knows what his followers are like and that remark was dangerous. Then again he is a dangerous man fullstop.

This video might help you to understand the context

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6z0ztrj44

Please don't patronise me, it is incredibly rude. I understand quite well how people are seeking to justify what he said but suggesting to his gun toting supporters, who tried to kill Pence for him, that she needs to be shot in the face is not OK.

That isn't exactly what he said. Did you read what Dickens pointed out on the other thread?

I don't like Trump, either, but the context made it clearer.

mae13

An overwhelming percentage of his speeches have been very personal towards his opponent and immensely offensive - surely there's a case for litigation? Or is he protected by the fact that he's an election candidate?

Oh! hasn’t she done the very same thing to him?

I dont know how to explain it any more than I have.

petra

Galaxy

It is a trope that has been used for decades, it was the basis of blackadder, verysimilar to the idea that it is easy for those who give orders because they wont be standing in the line of fire.

That’s why I put the video up. Some members need information spelt out.

Some certainly do as surely none of us want to support the idea of shooting people?

petra

theworriedwell

No the context doesn't make it OK for me. He knows what his followers are like and that remark was dangerous. Then again he is a dangerous man fullstop.

This video might help you to understand the context

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6z0ztrj44

Please don't patronise me, it is incredibly rude. I understand quite well how people are seeking to justify what he said but suggesting to his gun toting supporters, who tried to kill Pence for him, that she needs to be shot in the face is not OK.

Bill Maher (Harris supporter) was explaining last night that it's an old hippy idea! He is trying to explain to his own side that they are going to throw it away if they carry on with this stuff.

Galaxy

It is a trope that has been used for decades, it was the basis of blackadder, verysimilar to the idea that it is easy for those who give orders because they wont be standing in the line of fire.

That’s why I put the video up. Some members need information spelt out.

It is a trope that has been used for decades, it was the basis of blackadder, verysimilar to the idea that it is easy for those who give orders because they wont be standing in the line of fire.

theworriedwell

No the context doesn't make it OK for me. He knows what his followers are like and that remark was dangerous. Then again he is a dangerous man fullstop.

This video might help you to understand the context

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6z0ztrj44

I doubt it, because they are in an election, but I don’t know really.

No the context doesn't make it OK for me. He knows what his followers are like and that remark was dangerous. Then again he is a dangerous man fullstop.

MaizieD

theworriedwell

Wasn't he saying something about shooting someone in the face yesterday? I was busy with GC so didn't catch the whole thing but something about her (not sure who) being faced with 9 shotguns and shot in the face? I think that is criminal.

I must go and google it but I'm sure that was what they were saying.

Dickens put this into context on the US election thread.

Put suggesting someone should be put in front of 9 shotguns and shot in the face? I will have a look but can't imagine what context would make that appropriate.

theworriedwell

Wasn't he saying something about shooting someone in the face yesterday? I was busy with GC so didn't catch the whole thing but something about her (not sure who) being faced with 9 shotguns and shot in the face? I think that is criminal.

I must go and google it but I'm sure that was what they were saying.

Dickens put this into context on the US election thread.

Wasn't he saying something about shooting someone in the face yesterday? I was busy with GC so didn't catch the whole thing but something about her (not sure who) being faced with 9 shotguns and shot in the face? I think that is criminal.

I must go and google it but I'm sure that was what they were saying.

I too find nothing to admire in Melania Trump. In fact, the whole adult family is loathsome, all in it for themselves. Surely they can all see that Trump is in mental decline, yet they still support him, presumably as their meal ticket for none of them are employable anywhere else.