Trump

@Wyllow,
Yes Trump certainly was full of venom and even spoke of revenge, and has aligned himself with a man who also likes to put his toxic opinions out there - Musk.
I can’t imagine wanting to vote for someone so full of hate. Reminds me of the rhetoric used by Islamic fundamentalists. They may be different extremes but there is nothing different about the hatred being espoused.

Yes, they did choose: it remains to be seen whether the presentation of Trumps version of the US on Social Media and endless TV adverts matches the reality when it arrives.

Maybe I'm shocked by the levels of hatred, lies, and violent speech people can tolerate - and still vote for him. Not to put the voters down - I just cant genuinely understand voting for a leader with such venom and hatred in his campaign.

SingingRabbits

On the contrary. Trump is said to be the only political leader whom Putin fears. I am very glad Harris lost. She is not what people think she is, neither is Trump what The Woke imagine he is.

Why are you talking like this?
Women lost our reproductive rights under Trump ! Trump is a convicted rapist and a convicted felon , he is also an election denier that spuuredbon Jan 6 . I am sure Putin is having a good laugh knowing that Trump is in his pocket !

Your probably right JenniferEccles the two visions were polar opposites (If you ignore the desperate late attempts to claim KH would put up a wall ect.)

Which probably made things clearer for some to choose.

I think Sarah Smith, the BBC’s America correspondent summed it up well when she said “ Voters were presented with two different versions of America - they chose Trump’s “

It’s as simple as that.

Fleurpepper

Namsnanny

growstuff

Namsnanny

Little factoid (probably known by many), the Amish came out to vote for the first time ever.
They must have thought it an unusual election to have made such a decision.
They generally hate anything associated with the English world

The catalyst was raw milk.

Just as good a reason as any other.

It is very expensive here, as I know, we have it delivered from outside of our county, as no farms produce it near by.
A valuable food source imo

Oh come on- the Amish can keep their own cows if they wish.

Can you explain your comments, please?

SingingRabbits ... reading about KH family background, plus her connections (Willie Brown) who seemed a dodgy figure, wasnt the best look for her, and not because just because
of the age difference imv.

I thought when Obama gave that finger wagging talk to black gents (I forget exactly when and where) it didn't look as if he had much faith in her really.

Trump did not win fair and square . He used proven lies to agitate voters . Trump also had Elon Musk who was LITERALLY buying votes for Trump in Pennysylvania . I could go on but I think the fair and square part will be questioned !

Namsnanny

growstuff

Namsnanny

Little factoid (probably known by many), the Amish came out to vote for the first time ever.
They must have thought it an unusual election to have made such a decision.
They generally hate anything associated with the English world

The catalyst was raw milk.

Just as good a reason as any other.

It is very expensive here, as I know, we have it delivered from outside of our county, as no farms produce it near by.
A valuable food source imo

Oh come on- the Amish can keep their own cows if they wish.

Anyone in doubt about the consequence of strict anti-abortion laws should read about what happened to Savita Hallappanvar in Ireland. She had a much wanted pregnancy, was miscarrying, but because there was still a foetal heartbeat, medical staff were reluctant to intervene in case of legal consequences.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

ronib

I have often wondered about the choices a foetus might make if it could be asked. Do you want a life or is it okay to be destroyed now?
I think for me a lived life suits best.

So it's wrong to abort a foetus, even when the woman's life may be at risk, but okay for that woman to die because she's refused an abortion? Some 'pro-life' view that is...

On the contrary. Trump is said to be the only political leader whom Putin fears. I am very glad Harris lost. She is not what people think she is, neither is Trump what The Woke imagine he is.

It is what it it is - pray American can benefit from a few good policy.

Grantanow

It is a decisive result for Trump, both in the electoral college and the popular vote, within US democracy.

He promised a concept for healthcare. Obamacare brought healthcare to many, however 8% are uninsured (28m of 335m people). Hopeful.

He promised better wages. Minimum wage of 7.25 - imo, too low.

His policy plans should strengthen the dollar, add to inflation (which is low there), add high tariffs, and increase isolationism.

If he chooses to push his good ideas ....

I question his ability to follow through on his proposals.

Oldbat1

I just cant believe ANYONE cellebrating the disaster of Trump. He will now be able to cancel himself from being a convicted felon for starters. I really feel sickened.

Memories seem short what Trump was like first time round...rule by tweet at all hours of the night...drinking bleach...attempts to cheat by requesting votes in Georgia, never mind death by insurrection at the Capitol, where he was prepared to throw Pence under a bus because Pence dared to disagree.
He's perfectly capable of repeating his petty jealousies and those crazy thoughts - with more power than ever, the backing of Musk, who controls X.

He doesn't believe in Climate Change - he will be a dictator and they are very dangerous (from whatever political background)
He's not going to touch gun control, his answer to school shootings and even his own attempted assassination means "bring on more guns".

I'm shocked by the morality of Musk spending well over 75 million dollars to help win an election, when people cant get basic medical care.

Aveline

I feel beyond sickened. There'll be dancing in the Kremlin tonight.

Not sure about that tbh on the face of it you’d think so but if things had been different Putin may have liked having a left wing softie liberal in charge of the US ( his thinking) rather than an unpredictable hawk type.

LizzieDrip

“…just go quiet for a week then start posting again.”

Or, Oreo, they go away for a while and then re-appear under a different username!

Yeah, some do that, did you?😂

I feel beyond sickened. There'll be dancing in the Kremlin tonight.

Makes you wonder doesn't it Oldbat1?

My thoughts are there must be other sources of information that the voters find convincing.

Or else we are to believe humans split naturally down a fault line into opposites.

Surely that cannot be so, surely we can all have autonomy of thought, and be convinced to change some of our ideas by a calm intelligent debate?

I have seen it happen, but not often

Grow stuff It probably isn’t but thought I better include older women.

I just cant believe ANYONE cellebrating the disaster of Trump. He will now be able to cancel himself from being a convicted felon for starters. I really feel sickened.

Chocolatelovinggran

Mt61 - I have never used the phrase " arse licking" and am astonished that you would regard such as having a place in considered adult debate.
Unfortunately, leaders of countries have to deal with all other leaders, on behalf of their country. It's called diplomacy.
As a Republican, I acknowledge that our monarchs have managed this very well over the years. Perhaps their views, in private, might have been more robust, but their public face did not slip.

I never said you said that, it’s me saying that.

growstuff

LizzieDrip

“…just go quiet for a week then start posting again.”

Or, Oreo, they go away for a while and then re-appear under a different username!

No! I can't be bothered to change my username (why would I?) It's not worth it. I doubt whether anything will have changed after a week and I've got plenty of other things to keep me busy.

Here we go, for what it's worth ...

They get removed inexplicably for some reason, by someone, then they can't get back in again, so they have to find other ways, other names.
It has happened to many lately. I have no idea why?

I for one now certainly prefer to adopt a playful and kind-spirited tone because anything else might cause me suspension or worse. I never make someone feel bad or offend them, never did actually. If that's immature, so be it.

For the above reasons, I am not on this thread and others that are similar.

growstuff

Namsnanny

Little factoid (probably known by many), the Amish came out to vote for the first time ever.
They must have thought it an unusual election to have made such a decision.
They generally hate anything associated with the English world

The catalyst was raw milk.

Just as good a reason as any other.

It is very expensive here, as I know, we have it delivered from outside of our county, as no farms produce it near by.
A valuable food source imo

Apologies growstuff.