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LizzieDrip

“…just go quiet for a week then start posting again.”

Or, Oreo, they go away for a while and then re-appear under a different username!

No! I can't be bothered to change my username (why would I?) It's not worth it. I doubt whether anything will have changed after a week and I've got plenty of other things to keep me busy.

growstuff

Namsnanny

ronib

Starmer is completely unsuited to high office.

You're quite right, others have remarked on it elsewhere too.

So?! Just because more than one person says something doesn't mean it's true. That's exactly the kind of thing playground bullies say to justify their opinion.

Doesnt mean it isnt either.
Opinions you dont share aren't necessarily bullying.
Perhaps you are feeling a little sensitive?
Just an observation.

Namsnanny

Little factoid (probably known by many), the Amish came out to vote for the first time ever.
They must have thought it an unusual election to have made such a decision.
They generally hate anything associated with the English world

The catalyst was raw milk.

“…just go quiet for a week then start posting again.”

Or, Oreo, they go away for a while and then re-appear under a different username!

Cossy

The lack of respect shown by some GNs to the rest of us is astounding!

No, I don’t like Trump either as a man, nor do I think he is the best candidate for POTUS, I didn’t like Johnson or Teuss and think they damaged our country by their policies, neither do I agree with everything the LP is currently doing.

However both Trump and Starmer won their posts democratically, albeit it in two flawed political systems.

I respect the right of anyone to support, and debate, any issues they choose.

BUT, for a woman to dictate why and when another woman is “allowed” an abortion is simply laughable and personally insulting anyone on here is simply unacceptable.

I respect all of your views and opinions, and agree you should voice them, but I respectfully will always disagree and state why if I feel it’s warranted!

Just be nice, it doesn’t harm you! We don’t know anyone else’s backstories, think before you insult!

To be honest Cossy I've just about given up on having any kind of mature and rational debate on GN.

Little factoid (probably known by many), the Amish came out to vote for the first time ever.
They must have thought it an unusual election to have made such a decision.
They generally hate anything associated with the English world

Namsnanny

ronib

Starmer is completely unsuited to high office.

You're quite right, others have remarked on it elsewhere too.

So?! Just because more than one person says something doesn't mean it's true. That's exactly the kind of thing playground bullies say to justify their opinion.

ronib

Starmer is completely unsuited to high office.

Why?

So you’re disappointed, tough, get used to it, I was disappointed when the Brexit vote was lost, complaining isn’t going to change anything, move on.

ronib

Starmer is completely unsuited to high office.

You're quite right, others have remarked on it elsewhere too.

ronib

Starmer is completely unsuited to high office.

In your opinion. He did ok in other senior “high office” roles.

The lack of respect shown by some GNs to the rest of us is astounding!

No, I don’t like Trump either as a man, nor do I think he is the best candidate for POTUS, I didn’t like Johnson or Teuss and think they damaged our country by their policies, neither do I agree with everything the LP is currently doing.

However both Trump and Starmer won their posts democratically, albeit it in two flawed political systems.

I respect the right of anyone to support, and debate, any issues they choose.

BUT, for a woman to dictate why and when another woman is “allowed” an abortion is simply laughable and personally insulting anyone on here is simply unacceptable.

I respect all of your views and opinions, and agree you should voice them, but I respectfully will always disagree and state why if I feel it’s warranted!

Just be nice, it doesn’t harm you! We don’t know anyone else’s backstories, think before you insult!

Starmer is completely unsuited to high office.

Tho personally I think Starmer had to do some soft soaping to DT, diplomacy and all that, especially as over a hundred Labour activists went to the US to help KH.

You must use the words bootlicking instead MT61 otherwise the thread police will be all over you😁

biglouis

I dont like the man but two things about Trump's policies I do admire:-

Putting your own country first and not being so liberal about supporting third world causes or warlords.

His policy on immigration with mass departations and internments.

Too many tax dollars flowing out of the county or being squandered on aliens who have contributed nothing to the community. I wish we had a government which had the guts to take a similar stance.

Perhaps, you should consider that in his last “reign” Trump was responsible for locking up migrant children (alone, separated from their parents), prevented legitimate migrants from returning into the USA after visiting family in their home Countries, threatened to build a wall around Mexico, and caused insurrection when he lost the election?

Like us, USA relies heavily on migrants from Mexico and South America to undertake lots of domestic and carers roles.

In the UK we still have obligations with many former and current commonwealth countries and along with other countries, will always, and always have, send foreign aid. This doesn’t make us weak!

As for “liberal” causes, personally I support the rights of humans, the disabled, women. Clearly Trump and his supporters don’t, along with healthcare for all.

I wont be visiting Gilead any time soon.

Cossy

Mt61

Greyisnotmycolour
I feel physically sick. Misogyny, racism, criminality, hatred, violence, ignorance and conspiracy theories all elevated and revered. I'm done with Gransnet goodbye.
Goodbye 👍🏻

Don’t go, greyisnotmycolour, it’s not all of us who feel happy Trump is POTUS.

Mt61 Your response was both childish and spiteful! No need for that at all!

Flouncing is what people do on forums, except they rarely do really, just go quiet for a week then start posting again . Those who are serious about going just go.In any case, leaving cos you don’t like another poster commenting about say, how great DT is, well that’s a strange reaction on an opinions forum.

Congratulations to Donald J Trump.
Well the old devil did it!
I can’t say I’m surprised. I’m astonished at how Kamala Harris just appeared to walk into the post when everything I had read about her said how unpopular and useless she was as Vice President.

Interesting how the results were nowhere near as close as had been predicted.

Fascist policies towards certain demographics such as women, immigrants, and other nations are not the work of a demented individual but a dictator.

Caleo

Mr Trump will be a dictator. Mr Trump already is a fascist.

Agree.
And those who don’t believe that now will believe it soon when he supports autocracies around the world and kicks western allies to the curb.

Caleo

Mr Trump will be a dictator. Mr Trump already is a fascist.

I agree. Sad times.

Chocolatelovinggran

Mt61 - I have never used the phrase " arse licking" and am astonished that you would regard such as having a place in considered adult debate.
Unfortunately, leaders of countries have to deal with all other leaders, on behalf of their country. It's called diplomacy.
As a Republican, I acknowledge that our monarchs have managed this very well over the years. Perhaps their views, in private, might have been more robust, but their public face did not slip.

👏👏👏👏

Apparently more women voted for Trump than expected. That troubles me as a woman. I cannot for a nanosecond understand their mindset. A man who states that he is going to protect women whether they like it or not, and supports an antiabortion bill which means that countless women die every year, many younger than 18, does not seem to me to be a safe choice for women.
And his good buddy Musk has very misogynistic views. Fact is Trump was voted in but Musk will be expecting sone return on the millions he invested in the campaign, so he will have Trumps ear.

Mr Trump will be a dictator. Mr Trump already is a fascist.