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AGAA4

Not good news for UK and Europe. Trump may pull out of NATO which would put us in danger from Russia and others.

This my concern too AGAA4.

Without NATO and with Trump possibly aligning himself with Putin the whole western world is in danger. Ukraine must now feel extremely vulnerable as must other nations previously part of the USSR.
Israel is another problem that Trump might seek to eradicate with a throwaway remark or post on X. Bibi is certainly hoping so. And with Gallant sacked Bibi is readying himself for the final push indeed he held on for this very result.

DiamondLily

Victory for Trump has been declared. I don’t think Harris can catch him. I’m not surprised. Biden had long lost the plot, and Harris has been so inept as VP. The Democrats need to pick better candidates next time.

This I totally agree with.

mum2three

I'm very pleased! Hopefully he'll put a stop to all this liberal nonsense, and have some influence over the sorry shower we now have in charge of our country.

Liberal nonsense? What would that be, exactly?

mum2three

I'm very pleased! Hopefully he'll put a stop to all this liberal nonsense, and have some influence over the sorry shower we now have in charge of our country.

How will that work?

LizzieDrip also celebrating will be all families with children and partners involved in completely pointless foreign wars.

I am always astounded when seemingly intelligent, rational people support this nutter. Well it takes all sorts.

Sago

mae13

Congratulations Elon Musk - you finally managed to buy The White House........

Well if Elon Musk has bought the White House then Lord Alli certainly owns No 10.

No Sago, the two things aren't even in the same ball park. Elon Musk openly and effectively bought votes for Trump from the general public. He is immensely (and dangerously) powerful. He owns and controls one of the largest and most influential media platforms in the world along with the development of artificial intelligence and space transportation. No comparison can be drawn on any level between the two situations.

Sarnia

Trump asked the voters if they were better off now than they were 4 years ago. A lot of them aren't and like anywhere else their way and quality of life is affected by how their country is run.
Joe Biden should have stepped down much earlier because the Democrats would have had more time to put forward a candidate who would have appealed to the US more than Kamala Harris. Anyway, it's done and we all have to get on with it.

Agreed.

Goodbye NATO and decent green policies.

www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/donald-trump-reveals-unpalatable-truth-of-politics-r5j52fzls

This is a good analysis of the Trump success story. It rings true.

Today bullying and evil have won.

Name-calling; lack of empathy; shouting louder than your opponent; humiliate; be-little; lie; break the law… all these have been legitimised today.

God help the world. And God help the young women of America.

Putin will certainly be celebrating!

Oreo

I think it’s important not to get paranoid where Trump is concerned or over egg what he can or will do, he says a lot of things at election time and at any time, often contradictory but it’s all words.

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I think the big leaders are taking the right approach to Trump .... "looking forward to working with you."

I'm very pleased! Hopefully he'll put a stop to all this liberal nonsense, and have some influence over the sorry shower we now have in charge of our country.

I don’t think he will make the full 4 years and then we’ll be landed with Vance, who is, to my mind, worse. I think that has been the plan all along. You heard it here first.

Good luck, Trump supporters. I hope you enjoy your fantasy while it lasts. The rest of us will suffer for it.

Oreo so there aren’t any checks and balances that we know about? Since the USA doesn’t have the dubious privilege of monarchy as the final block? Both the Senate and the House will be Republican.
It’s a dry question not an emotional one.

foxie48

Democracy is about accepting the majority vote, it's perfectly ok not to like the result and to discuss it, that's a benefit of living in a democracy IMO

I think I agree.

Unless anyone can convince me otherwise.

ronib

Oreo this isn’t handwringing. In the cold light of day, what checks and balances does the American constitution have to prevent changes?

But it is!
He’s only just won the election so no need to get ahead of yourself on this matter.

eazybee I don’t know that killing so many young soldiers is the preferred option for Russians and Ukrainians. I would much prefer that diplomatic solutions were used and NATO is not an innocent in all of this. If it takes a crazy, psychotic American to stop the slaughter then what does it say about the rest of us?

Oreo this isn’t handwringing. In the cold light of day, what checks and balances does the American constitution have to prevent changes?

The frightening thing about Trump is his relationship with Nato (Ukraine) and Putin, which does not bode well for the rest of the world.
I have little understanding of American politics and the way they have evolved, but they are very different from ours, as is the electorate.
The only good thing that may come from this is that Farage will spend more of his time in America.

Maybe see if it happens before all the handwringing.

Oreo

ronib

Oreo but Trump has total control?

Not to make changes like that.

I’m afraid that he could well change that. The twenty-second amendment has only been ratified since the 1950s.

Trump is intent on weaponising the civil service and the courts. He has control of the senate - there is very little checks left.

petra

jasper16

Politely please, somebody tell me what they like about him and his policies?

Jasper16
Im wondering what I’ve missed Poverty and the peoples vote being taken for granted.
When your poor and your food/fuel bill goes up every week you can’t afford principles. Americans had more dollars in their pockets last time round.
Like the Labour Party here the democrats have taken the ethinic vote for granted. How wrong can you be. Have you seen the southern states that voted for him.
The one they got spectacularly wrong was Pennsylvania wher e 2/3 of the population are Peuto Rican. 🤦🏼‍♀️

I take your point petra. It's complex and my understanding of the political situation in the huge country of the US is limited.

Superficially I think Biden was a disaster and KH was parachuted in too late.

I can see why if you are broke and struggling, you are going to go for the guy who appears to be on your side.

Perhaps they think others have a "better deal" somehow.

The most serious aspect of this is that Trump shows very clear signs of psychosis. It is a source of concern that there is no way of vetting for this prior to a candidate standing for office.

It’s America’s poor who I feel sorriest for. The Biden years did nothing for them, as Trump kept telling them. I fear they will find that he does nothing either.