Just saw Farage over in America.

HousePlantQueen

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well done Nigel and you deserve a good gloat!
Trumpism is very similar to the Reform agenda which I very much hope will become mainstream in the UK.

I would say that this comment shows how little one understands the implications of a Trump win, and how poor a judge of character anyone is who thinks that Farage is anything other than a self serving grifter with no thought at all for the mugs people who elected him.....but I won't because you will be petty enough to report me! So.....can I just say I disagree with everything you have just posted?

I think anyone who voted and supports KS is a poor judge of character but normally would keep my opinions to myself!

It will be the same trade deal as it would be if a Tory Government, or, Heaven help us, Farage negotiated it ronib. Trump is not interested in compromise, he will be all about promoting the interests of the USA. We import about £20bn more a year from there than we export, that is our small fry bargaining chip as far as they are concerned.

Okay let’s see how Starmer sorts a trade deal with the USA. I am not hopeful.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well done Nigel and you deserve a good gloat!
Trumpism is very similar to the Reform agenda which I very much hope will become mainstream in the UK.

I would say that this comment shows how little one understands the implications of a Trump win, and how poor a judge of character anyone is who thinks that Farage is anything other than a self serving grifter with no thought at all for the mugs people who elected him.....but I won't because you will be petty enough to report me! So.....can I just say I disagree with everything you have just posted?

ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.

This country does not need any help from Nigel Farage ronib, he’s a wrecker not a conciliator. Trump though is a user, he wouldn’t give Farage his fake tan unless it was in his own interest to do so - not that anybody in the UK would be dumb enough to buy such a poor product, of course.

Casdon this country needs all the help it can get. Let’s see what great deal Labour strikes with Trump.

news.sky.com/story/cameron-stands-by-trump-stupid-comments-10284237
Déjà vu.
He wrote much more in his memoirs too - I’m surprised you don’t remember, as it came back to haunt him in April this year, so it’s not long ago at all.

I won’t say what I think about Farage’s offer - where I’d tell him to stick it is not for those of a delicate constitution.

Casdon my memory doesn’t stretch back that far. As a simple rule bad mouthing other foreign leaders can be foolish.
I noticed that Labour has refused Farage’s offer to help negotiate a trade deal with Trump. Another mistake by Labour imo.

ronib

Just like to point out that thankfully Boris Johnson is no longer pm or foreign secretary. However the current holders of those posts represent this country here and abroad. I don’t think that because BJ failed, we should automatically accept substandard political figure well into the future.

Did you accept it when David Cameron said very similar things as PM ronib?

Figures

Just like to point out that thankfully Boris Johnson is no longer pm or foreign secretary. However the current holders of those posts represent this country here and abroad. I don’t think that because BJ failed, we should automatically accept substandard political figure well into the future.

Trump’s own VP, Vance, said that he (Trump) would be “America’s next Hitler”.

Trump still chose him as VP🤷‍♀️

NotSpaghetti

Also stupid and unprofessional for Badenoch to raise it again!


Don't poke the bear maybe?

Don’t be silly! It’s only “liberal lefties” who say and do “disrespectful, stupid, unprofessional and unacceptable” things!

BevSec

ronib
Cossy I think it’s completely unacceptable and very disrespectful stupid and unprofessional for Starmer and Lammy to have gone public on their disdain for another country’s leading politician.
Ronib, so do I.

Ronib, BevSec

Actually I agree, it was disrespectful, but I think this about Johnson too.

You two only appear to think anything Starmer and his govt do is “stupid and disrespectful”

Did you miss all the very stupid things Johnson did and said? The things Farage has says?

How can you think it’s ok for Badenoch to bring it up again in this parliament?

Funny how awful us “liberal lefties” are accused of “worshipping Starmer” and never holding those we support to account, nothing could be further from the truth in reality.

The remarks Lammy made were over 7 years ago, as has been discussed and made clear on the Badenoch first PMQ thread.

Subsequently as said several times just above in this thread, a suitable political relationship has been established and as I quoted by Eldridge Colby above.

If we held Trump to remarks he made 7 years ago....well the mind boggles!

Also stupid and unprofessional for Badenoch to raise it again!


Don't poke the bear maybe?

ronib

Cossy I think it’s completely unacceptable and very disrespectful stupid and unprofessional for Starmer and Lammy to have gone public on their disdain for another country’s leading politician.

Ronib, so do I.

Cossy I think it’s completely unacceptable and very disrespectful stupid and unprofessional for Starmer and Lammy to have gone public on their disdain for another country’s leading politician.

BevSec
ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.
👏👏👏

BevSec ronib

The statement above is simply incorrect, Starmer has already visited the US and met with Trump.

As for Lammy’s comments, they’re not so different to Johnson’s and he managed a “political relationship” with Trump, as will Starmer.

Farage is simply seeking publicity and I fail to see why it is any way acceptable for him to be in the US supporting Trump as a currently serving MP.

BevSec

ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.

👏👏👏

*Actual current relationships with Lammy, as opposed to your version outdated version

"Though Jenrick has never met Trump, he maintains close links with Elbridge Colby

, who many predict will be Trump’s national security advisor should he return to the White House. The pair first met in Washington this February.

Colby made headlines for criticising former foreign secretary Lord Cameron’s “wildly incoherent” approach to defence.

However, he was impressed by current Foreign Secretary David Lammy’s “real effort to reach out to Conservatives and new-Right people” in the US and by his acknowledgement that Europe must spend more on its own defence while the US steels itself against China

www.politicshome.com/news/article/how-do-the-tories-deal-with-donald-trump

They will take a pragmatic approach, deal with who is in power in the UK.

Casdon

Fear not FriedGreenTomatoes2, I promise we will all be impressed when he resolves the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours like he promised he would. I wonder if it will be on his first , or can it wait until his second, day in office?

😂😂😂😂😂

ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.

👏👏👏

FriedGreenTomatoes2

True Babs03 but it does add some context to the discussion at hand.

It adds no context whatsoever!

His actions (the LP MP), were/are reprehensible and inexcusable and has nothing whatsoever to do with Farage and his absences

FriedGreenTomatoes2

True Babs03 but it does add some context to the discussion at hand.

It doesn't add context, it just adds more nastiness.