Elon MUSK - HEAD OF

The problem with Musk is that he is unpredictable and impulsive, that will not go down well with civil servants who are the opposite, they have to be.

The beaurocracy in business is changing fast, everything is online these days, I’m finding that understanding the logic of each system is challenging, each company has a different format, their own staff has been trained, customers don’t get training.

The fundamentals of business and government administration are the same, making sure the goods or services you provide are delivered at minimum cost. Musks Tesla cars are delivered very efficiently, no dealers, you order online, then collect the car from a regional centre, no showrooms no salesmen. He made his money from PayPal entirely online banking, most other banks have followed.

Love him or loathe him he knows how to run an organization efficiently, why he decided to get involved in Twitter is beyond me

He needed Twitter to create an amplification echo chamber to promote the MAGA cause and elect Trump. He will benefit from deregulation of his businesses and government contract awards. The average Joe will not benefit. The average Jill will be even harder hit with loss of bodily autonomy with the Christian Taliban given free reign.

MayBee70

RosiesMaw2

I’m not sure what the difference is between Elon Musk and Lord Alli, he of the Downing Street pass.
Lord Alli has donated thousands to various Labour politicians over the years. He gave both Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall £26,500 towards their party leadership bids in 2015 and £10,000 to Owen Smith the following year.
He became Sir Keir Starmer's chief campaign fundraiser in 2022 but has given him more than £39,000 in gifts since the previous general election in 2019.
Sky News' Westminster Accounts revealed the peer has donated almost £19,000 in luxury workwear and glasses to the prime minister and his wife so far this year.
He spent a similar sum on accommodation and other "private office costs" for him during the election campaign, accounts show.
According to the register of MPs' interest, Lord Alli has given £14,000 to Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson for "work events".
He also let deputy leader Angela Rayner stay at his New York home for New Year's Eve and gave her £2,230 in donations for clothes.

But does Lord Alli own and control one of the biggest social media platforms in the world ? And did he offer people financial incentives to vote for Labour?

Who knows. Did Biden send activists to the UK to help persuade voters to elect a Left wing Gov. ??

Freya5

MayBee70

RosiesMaw2

I’m not sure what the difference is between Elon Musk and Lord Alli, he of the Downing Street pass.
Lord Alli has donated thousands to various Labour politicians over the years. He gave both Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall £26,500 towards their party leadership bids in 2015 and £10,000 to Owen Smith the following year.
He became Sir Keir Starmer's chief campaign fundraiser in 2022 but has given him more than £39,000 in gifts since the previous general election in 2019.
Sky News' Westminster Accounts revealed the peer has donated almost £19,000 in luxury workwear and glasses to the prime minister and his wife so far this year.
He spent a similar sum on accommodation and other "private office costs" for him during the election campaign, accounts show.
According to the register of MPs' interest, Lord Alli has given £14,000 to Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson for "work events".
He also let deputy leader Angela Rayner stay at his New York home for New Year's Eve and gave her £2,230 in donations for clothes.

But does Lord Alli own and control one of the biggest social media platforms in the world ? And did he offer people financial incentives to vote for Labour?

Who knows. Did Biden send activists to the UK to help persuade voters to elect a Left wing Gov. ??

I think Farage has been known to travel the world supporting right wing activists.

So do I

All I can say is God help the world!

MayBee70

Freya5

MayBee70

RosiesMaw2

I’m not sure what the difference is between Elon Musk and Lord Alli, he of the Downing Street pass.
Lord Alli has donated thousands to various Labour politicians over the years. He gave both Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall £26,500 towards their party leadership bids in 2015 and £10,000 to Owen Smith the following year.
He became Sir Keir Starmer's chief campaign fundraiser in 2022 but has given him more than £39,000 in gifts since the previous general election in 2019.
Sky News' Westminster Accounts revealed the peer has donated almost £19,000 in luxury workwear and glasses to the prime minister and his wife so far this year.
He spent a similar sum on accommodation and other "private office costs" for him during the election campaign, accounts show.
According to the register of MPs' interest, Lord Alli has given £14,000 to Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson for "work events".
He also let deputy leader Angela Rayner stay at his New York home for New Year's Eve and gave her £2,230 in donations for clothes.

But does Lord Alli own and control one of the biggest social media platforms in the world ? And did he offer people financial incentives to vote for Labour?

Who knows. Did Biden send activists to the UK to help persuade voters to elect a Left wing Gov. ??

I think Farage has been known to travel the world supporting right wing activists.

And of course two ex Tory prime ministers. Hey Ho.

I think Farage has been known to travel the world supporting right wing activists.

And all expenses paid, as well, by individuals and firms "gifts".

Mussolini comes to mind. The man Trump modelled himself on. Didn't end so well.

Lovetopaint037

Thinking that Elon Musk is set on being President. Wouldn’t be surprised as anything can happen in America or so it seems.

Very interesting as the Constitution, I believe, says the President has to be born in the USA. Will they (he) change sacred the Constitution and would they, at the same time, change gun law?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

“The President-elect has shut himself away at Mar-a-Lago to go through candidates’ profiles, and absolute loyalty is a prerequisite”

Good for Trump. No ‘Blob’ is going to hold him back from what he wants to achieve this time round. He’s had a term in office and no doubt learnt how to navigate better. He was voted in by a majority (sorry all you on here who don’t like him but hey that’s democracy) and they look to him now to Put America First. I quite envy them to be honest having such a patriot in charge of legislation. We here can only dream of such huge ambition and statesmanship being offered to us.

Very well said, FGT! I know we are in a minority but hopefully people will wake up soon and see that we desperately need a Trump here save our country from disaster under this Marxist government.

IOMGran

About $199,990,000. And that's not adding in the Twitter purchase which was $44 billion heading down the pan after it stopped being impartial and went full Trump.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/12/elon-musk-america-pac-donald-trump-campaign

Twitter never was impartial before Musk bought it. Now it IS impartial because everyone has a voice, regardless of their politics. It was a very Left-wing platform at that time; pre-Musk, anyone with a right-leaning opinion was shadow-banned or blocked. Do some research into 'the Twitter files' if you don't believe me.

colliemum

FriedGreenTomatoes2

“The President-elect has shut himself away at Mar-a-Lago to go through candidates’ profiles, and absolute loyalty is a prerequisite”

Good for Trump. No ‘Blob’ is going to hold him back from what he wants to achieve this time round. He’s had a term in office and no doubt learnt how to navigate better. He was voted in by a majority (sorry all you on here who don’t like him but hey that’s democracy) and they look to him now to Put America First. I quite envy them to be honest having such a patriot in charge of legislation. We here can only dream of such huge ambition and statesmanship being offered to us.

Very well said, FGT! I know we are in a minority but hopefully people will wake up soon and see that we desperately need a Trump here save our country from disaster under this Marxist government.

I feel quite confident in saying that will never happen. No convicted criminal with outstanding charges would ever be elected in the UK, because our leaders are not directly elected by the populace, thank goodness.

People did vote for Trump but I do wonder what they were allowed to see and hear on which they based their votes.
Elon Musk ruined formerly Twitter, now X and the Guardian have said that they will no longer use it. I didn't have to delete my account because it was deleted for me and I won't open a new account. Musk can't be daft as he is extremely rich but his views make him extremely dangerous also.

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Thank goodness in the UK we have a strong independent judiciary.

As for the people Trump is appointing - just go over to the Trump and Musk thread to see who they actually are. A bunch of criminals and misfits. Just look at who is set to be in charge of the mightiest, richest military in human history:

" is the weekend host of Fox News’s breakfast show, Pete Hegseth. Admittedly, he served in Iraq and Afghanistan – and as a prison guard in Guantánamo Bay – but Hegseth has never run a whelk stall, let alone one of the world’s biggest organisations, employing close to 3 million people. His rank inexperience would be worrying enough, until you become familiar with what he believes.

He’s covered in tattoos, including symbols favoured by the Christian nationalist far right, among them the slogan Deus Vult and the Jerusalem cross"

here are more details of Trump's "line up"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/15/outrageous-appointments-donald-trump-anti-vaxxer

although the Republicans have control over both he Senate and the H of Representatives, the margins are very, very narrow, and I'm glad to say that Trump's favourite for the Republican leadership for the Senate - Scott - came third in the secret ballot, the very competent but more independent John Thune.

“He was voted in by a majority (sorry all you on here who don’t like him but hey that’s democracy) “

Most on GN dont like Starmer , even though a great many voted for him, I didn’t vote for him and I think he’s going the right way.
You won’t find many friends of Trump in the UK.

What truly shocked me about the election race were the constant lies, threats, and pure bile and hatred, the de facto vote buying, they poured out.
I like to think we'd have the decency to be turned off by such people in the UK.

MayBee70

FriedGreenTomatoes2

“The President-elect has shut himself away at Mar-a-Lago to go through candidates’ profiles, and absolute loyalty is a prerequisite”

Good for Trump. No ‘Blob’ is going to hold him back from what he wants to achieve this time round. He’s had a term in office and no doubt learnt how to navigate better. He was voted in by a majority (sorry all you on here who don’t like him but hey that’s democracy) and they look to him now to Put America First. I quite envy them to be honest having such a patriot in charge of legislation. We here can only dream of such huge ambition and statesmanship being offered to us.

Is it democratic for an unelected person like Musk to be given so much power in the the most powerful country in the world
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He's as unelected as Ali, not sure why he was made a Lord, along with many others to be fair, perhaps his donations maybe. He has had a huge amount of influence in the Labour Party and law changing. Still under investigation re breaches of Paragraphen 14a and 17 of the Code of conduct.

"He has had a huge amount of influence in the Labour Party and law changing"

He hasn't, actually. Would you care to outline what his opinions are on any given policy where he is currently clearly "influencing" the Labour Party?

His period of "influence" was way back 20 or so years ago when he was involved in furthering gay rights, ie the rights to civil partnerships and similar.

He has had a huge amount of influence in the Labour Party and law changing

In what ways Freya?

I think its a case of "look, a squirrel" Lizzie, after a discussion of what Trump and Musk are actually up to.

O.M.G.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well I think he’ll do a great job.

Trump didn’t accomplish much last time around . Remember the wall the Mexicans were going to pay for ? Only a tiny fraction of the wall was built under Trump and a good part is decrepit and rusting . He is all hot air and bluster . One look at his proposed cabinet is another example . A band of incompetents !

David49

“He was voted in by a majority (sorry all you on here who don’t like him but hey that’s democracy) “

Most on GN dont like Starmer , even though a great many voted for him, I didn’t vote for him and I think he’s going the right way.
You won’t find many friends of Trump in the UK.

I don’t agree that ‘most on gransnet dislike Starmer’.