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ā€œDog-free zones in Walesā€

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RosiesMaw2 Thu 14-Nov-24 09:00:17

Well I think Humphrey the cat at No. 10 is behind it.

NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Nov-24 08:57:33

I don't know if this is all over the UK but some beaches in Wales are already dog free. As this seems to have been going on for a while it might have originally been for dog-mess reasons?

Nothing to do with OP - just saying.

kircubbin2000 Thu 14-Nov-24 08:56:34

⁹Fleur pepper I know that but how would you enforce it. Where I live dogs must be on leads on the beach between certain hours but most people ignore the rule.

Oreo Thu 14-Nov-24 08:56:25

Iam64 I agree about dogs on leads in busy areas.šŸ‘šŸ»

Oreo Thu 14-Nov-24 08:54:56

UK beaches often have dog free/ dog friendly zones already which makes sense where there are lots of children.
The countryside is for every man ( and woman) tho, including their dog if they wish.Too much pandering to daftness going on.

Iam64 Thu 14-Nov-24 08:54:35

NotSpaghetti

I am assuming that this is because dogs are "unclean" in Islam and so areas should be available that are known to be dog-free.

Obviously not all areas as they encourage conversation and can be a boon to some people but everyone should have an opportunity to exercise/play outside.

That's what I'd take from this.

I live in an area with a large Muslim community and I’m aware of their concerns about dog. I’ve noticed an increase in the numbers of people from our Muslim. Community enjoying walks in our lovely countryside, despite the increase In dogs.

Surely one community needs can’t top others. I keep my dogs on lead in busy areas. They can’t bother other people. I never expected to join this group but I begin to believe dogs should be on lead in all busy areas. It’s common sense - I’m sick of people who shout ā€˜it’s ok they’re friendly’ as their dogs surround mine. It’s plain bad manners as well as stupid. Dogs are on lead for a reason, kennel club basic manners is if you see a dog on lead approaching, you get your own dog to heel or put its lead on

Fleurpepper Thu 14-Nov-24 08:53:41

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NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Nov-24 08:53:09

Oreo - but as Iam says, you can't avoid dogs if they are actually there these days as they come and "explore" you.

If there was a "dog free" zone it won't harm anyone and is easier to enforce than "on a lead" for example.

Fleurpepper Thu 14-Nov-24 08:51:07

We went to Devon last Summer, and there were dog free zones, and do friendly zones, on beaches. Made perfect sense.

It is true that people who come from countries were packs of street dogs roam the streets, often starving and therefore aggressive in the search of food (understandably) and often carriers of diseases, worms and even rabies - have grown up fearing dogs and are often terrified of them. But that also applies to lots of people born and bred here.

kircubbin- in a dog free zone, the whole point is that there would be no dogs to jump on you, friendly or otherwise.

Oreo Thu 14-Nov-24 08:49:03

Or, since we don’t live in an Islamic state, people of all faiths and none have to accept that dogs are a part of life here.They don’t need to pat them on the head.

Iam64 Thu 14-Nov-24 08:48:27

I’ve just read about this RosiesMaw. I’ve no problem with the concerns about people not cleaning up after their dog. I readily accept there are far too many owners who treat their dogs like ā€˜fur babies’, with a total absence of recall or other training so their dogs should be on lead.
These are familiar complaints on any gransnet discussion on dogs. I no longer use area I’ve walked my dogs in for over 50 years. They’re far too busy with families, children and badly behaved dogs. I’m not complaining about the increase in people enjoying country walks.

I’d be very interested in why the focus of the comments you quote is about developing anti-racist plans for rural Wales, rather than on encouraging dog owners to be more responsible.

kircubbin2000 Thu 14-Nov-24 08:46:25

Dog free zones would be great for people scared of dogs but it will never work because of owners attitudes.When a dog jumps on you the response is always he's just being friendly.

NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Nov-24 08:44:23

I am assuming that this is because dogs are "unclean" in Islam and so areas should be available that are known to be dog-free.

Obviously not all areas as they encourage conversation and can be a boon to some people but everyone should have an opportunity to exercise/play outside.

That's what I'd take from this.

Oreo Thu 14-Nov-24 08:43:11

To rid Wales of racism by 2030?šŸ˜‚
Also can’t see how dog free zones will help anything bar those who are terrified of dogs.
If only they concentrated on things that actually matter to the people living in Wales, dog free zones won’t be on their minds much.

RosiesMaw2 Thu 14-Nov-24 08:38:07

Can anybody shed any light on the logic behind this thinking? Asking for a 🐶 friend

DOG-FREE zones should be created to help make the outdoors ā€œanti-racist ā€, the Welsh Government has been told
Labour’s devolved administration has pledged to rid Wales of racism by 2030, and set out a plan to ensure ā€œall areasā€ of public life are transformed
According to a report submitted by Climate Cymru BAME, an environmental group, dog-free zones should be created in the country’s green spaces to make the outdoors more inclusive of minorities . The reason for this is not elaborated on in the report, which will be used by the Welsh Government to ā€œsupport policy teams developing and implementingā€ anti-racist plans for rural Wales.