“Dog-free zones in Wales”

To rid Wales of racism by 2030?😂
Also can’t see how dog free zones will help anything bar those who are terrified of dogs.
If only they concentrated on things that actually matter to the people living in Wales, dog free zones won’t be on their minds much.

I am assuming that this is because dogs are "unclean" in Islam and so areas should be available that are known to be dog-free.

Obviously not all areas as they encourage conversation and can be a boon to some people but everyone should have an opportunity to exercise/play outside.

That's what I'd take from this.

Dog free zones would be great for people scared of dogs but it will never work because of owners attitudes.When a dog jumps on you the response is always he's just being friendly.

I’ve just read about this RosiesMaw. I’ve no problem with the concerns about people not cleaning up after their dog. I readily accept there are far too many owners who treat their dogs like ‘fur babies’, with a total absence of recall or other training so their dogs should be on lead.
These are familiar complaints on any gransnet discussion on dogs. I no longer use area I’ve walked my dogs in for over 50 years. They’re far too busy with families, children and badly behaved dogs. I’m not complaining about the increase in people enjoying country walks.

I’d be very interested in why the focus of the comments you quote is about developing anti-racist plans for rural Wales, rather than on encouraging dog owners to be more responsible.

Or, since we don’t live in an Islamic state, people of all faiths and none have to accept that dogs are a part of life here.They don’t need to pat them on the head.

We went to Devon last Summer, and there were dog free zones, and do friendly zones, on beaches. Made perfect sense.

It is true that people who come from countries were packs of street dogs roam the streets, often starving and therefore aggressive in the search of food (understandably) and often carriers of diseases, worms and even rabies - have grown up fearing dogs and are often terrified of them. But that also applies to lots of people born and bred here.

kircubbin- in a dog free zone, the whole point is that there would be no dogs to jump on you, friendly or otherwise.

Oreo - but as Iam says, you can't avoid dogs if they are actually there these days as they come and "explore" you.

If there was a "dog free" zone it won't harm anyone and is easier to enforce than "on a lead" for example.

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NotSpaghetti

I am assuming that this is because dogs are "unclean" in Islam and so areas should be available that are known to be dog-free.

Obviously not all areas as they encourage conversation and can be a boon to some people but everyone should have an opportunity to exercise/play outside.

That's what I'd take from this.

I live in an area with a large Muslim community and I’m aware of their concerns about dog. I’ve noticed an increase in the numbers of people from our Muslim. Community enjoying walks in our lovely countryside, despite the increase In dogs.

Surely one community needs can’t top others. I keep my dogs on lead in busy areas. They can’t bother other people. I never expected to join this group but I begin to believe dogs should be on lead in all busy areas. It’s common sense - I’m sick of people who shout ‘it’s ok they’re friendly’ as their dogs surround mine. It’s plain bad manners as well as stupid. Dogs are on lead for a reason, kennel club basic manners is if you see a dog on lead approaching, you get your own dog to heel or put its lead on

UK beaches often have dog free/ dog friendly zones already which makes sense where there are lots of children.
The countryside is for every man ( and woman) tho, including their dog if they wish.Too much pandering to daftness going on.

Iam64 I agree about dogs on leads in busy areas.👏🏻

⁹Fleur pepper I know that but how would you enforce it. Where I live dogs must be on leads on the beach between certain hours but most people ignore the rule.

I don't know if this is all over the UK but some beaches in Wales are already dog free. As this seems to have been going on for a while it might have originally been for dog-mess reasons?

Nothing to do with OP - just saying.

Well I think Humphrey the cat at No. 10 is behind it.

Surely one community needs can’t top others

Dont you believe it.

I have been waiting for ages for some Politican or other to come up with something about dogs, to try and make the masses "comply" in a willing fashion.

Oreo -this kind of official language alienates people doesn’t it,
The problem is out of control dogs. Walking is a typically English thing to do. It’s much less an obsession in countries like India and Pakistan - it’s generally much too hot so isn’t part of their original culture. That changes in time. Mr i led various walking groups locally. One of his favourites was a group of Muslim women who wanted to feel fitter and decided to try his walks, they chose a name for their group and had a lot of fun.

Beaches - as far as I know there have always been some dog-free ones in the Uk.

Yes, for many years we’ve had dogs banned from many beaches between March and end September

There are dog free beaches in Wales, walking is atypically Welsh thing to do

NotSpaghetti

I don't know if this is all over the UK but some beaches in Wales are already dog free. As this seems to have been going on for a while it might have originally been for dog-mess reasons?

Nothing to do with OP - just saying.

It was exactly that, dog mess on beaches where kids play and dig in the sand.

Iam64

Oreo -this kind of official language alienates people doesn’t it,
The problem is out of control dogs. Walking is a typically English thing to do. It’s much less an obsession in countries like India and Pakistan - it’s generally much too hot so isn’t part of their original culture. That changes in time. Mr i led various walking groups locally. One of his favourites was a group of Muslim women who wanted to feel fitter and decided to try his walks, they chose a name for their group and had a lot of fun.

It does alienate people and I think it’s quite wrong.Having the government do something about dogs running free in busy places and residential areas would be received better by the public.Dogs kept on short leads in certain places but in the countryside up to the owner who knows their dog and can allow it to nose about happily in woods for instance but then leash it when near a field of livestock.

RosiesMaw2

Well I think Humphrey the cat at No. 10 is behind it.

😂

Try France. I was there for weeks this Summer with my dog. They can have all the rules they like, all over the place, but no one takes any notice of them!!

Much as I love dogs I think dog free areas are a good idea and agree that dogs should be on leads in busy areas. People dislike dogs for all sorts of reasons so they should have places to enjoy which are dog free. Tbh it doesn't matter why they want to avoid dogs, they're entitled to a choice.

Last Saturday, because a few fireworks were being let off in the vicinity, some people attempted to attend a function with their dogs in the village hall, where dogs are forbidden, because 'they couldn't be left alone'. During the election some voters, probably the same people, were attempting to bring their dogs into the voting booths because 'they couldn't be left unattended'.