Oh Mr Starmer … could things be any worse only 4 months in?

Yes I knew GP Practices are not exempt, and I think they should be. GP Practices will not be able to afford the staff they need, which is not good news.

I remember when Labour brought in the minimum wage. At the time it was £ 3.50 per hour and there was outrage from employers saying they would go bust, as couldn't afford to do it, unemployment would go through the roof….etc etc.
What happened… ? Life carried on.

MissAdventure

I don't believe that job security should depend on staff working their bums off for little pay.
That isn't a help, long term.

I think we all think that MissA.
The increase in minimum wage is very welcome.

madalene

GrannyGravy13

madalene the NHS and rest of the public sector are exempt from the NI increase.

Like you I think all Health care/providers should be exempt from the increase.

Thank you.
I didn’t know that.

As GP’s private enterprises, they and their practices are not exempt.

GrannyGravy13

madalene the NHS and rest of the public sector are exempt from the NI increase.

Like you I think all Health care/providers should be exempt from the increase.

Thank you.
I didn’t know that.

MissAdventure

I don't believe that job security should depend on staff working their bums off for little pay.
That isn't a help, long term.

We have always paid above minimum wage.

What will hit us and many other establishments with part-time workers is reducing the starting rate of employers NI down to £5000.

I'm listening to a podcast about Margaret Thatcher, she had a very rough ride at times, especially at the start of her time as PM. She was despised by many, including members of her own party. Do you remember the Thatcher milk snatcher when she was Education Minister? However, she managed 10 years as PM and 14 or so years as leader of the Conservatives and she is still, for some, seen as a very successful PM (not by me, I must add) hence I'm unwilling to judge KS on the basis of four months in office.

I don't believe that job security should depend on staff working their bums off for little pay.
That isn't a help, long term.

Millie22

I only read today that Starmer is on course to be the worst PM ever in his first few months.

He is a huge disappointment to so many people.

I heard that too and it’s absolutely true. I have several friends who are not really interested in politics at all but they thought they would vote Labour this time because they promised so much. They are bitterly disappointed and wish they hadn’t bothered.

madalene the NHS and rest of the public sector are exempt from the NI increase.

Like you I think all Health care/providers should be exempt from the increase.

It’s the employers increased NI contributions I have a problem with, because I think it’s likely to lead to job losses in all fields.

I don’t have any problem with the increase in minimum wage, in fact I support it. The increase in employers NI contributions is said to be the one which will cause job losses.

I think the NHS, care homes, GP Practices, and hospices should be exempt. It’s a tax on care and is unjustifiable.

I only read today that Starmer is on course to be the worst PM ever in his first few months.

He is a huge disappointment to so many people.

We’re 🤬 should be were!

My iPad and I are going to fall out very soon 🤬

Unless the government decide to exclude care homes, care agencies, GP practices, hospices and pharmacies from the increase in employers NI expect it to take longer to get a GP appointment, more difficult to get home care or indeed find a place in a care home.

Pharmacies are already closing, that will increase. Charity organisations are also looking at staff redundancies. Hospices are run in a shoe string and charity as it is, how will they cope.

Remember Labour we’re going to fix these…

madalene

MissA it is reasonable to assume that next year, after the increased NI contributions for employers is implemented, that people will lose their jobs, or through natural wastage, there will be fewer jobs available. If you then include the increase in the minimum wage, something I wholeheartedly agree with, the additional costs to employers will be substantial, and a number of big employers have already indicated that there will be fewer jobs.

So to answer your question, it seems very likely that there will be fewer jobs next year. But until it happens, we won’t know for sure.

Thank you.
I don't see the moral problem with increasing the minimum wage, but I understand it could impact thing negatively.

Not yet, though, so...

I can’t think of anything good since Labour got in. It is miserable, depressing and the future looks very bleak.

MissA it is reasonable to assume that next year, after the increased NI contributions for employers is implemented, that people will lose their jobs, or through natural wastage, there will be fewer jobs available. If you then include the increase in the minimum wage, something I wholeheartedly agree with, the additional costs to employers will be substantial, and a number of big employers have already indicated that there will be fewer jobs.

So to answer your question, it seems very likely that there will be fewer jobs next year. But until it happens, we won’t know for sure.

I can't see anything here that makes e feel that way.
Nobody has come up with anything definite.

4 months is very early days.

If a week is a long time in politics, four months is more than enough time to reassure voters they’ve put their X in the right box.
Not have them wondering what the heck they’ve let themselves in for.

Well, until or if anyone can prove that's a lie, then I don't think it means much.

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MissAdventure

Didn't he work on a farm, then?

Well he's certainly milking it if he did!

In the run up to the election I thought he said something like he used to pick stones off fields for a local farmer.

I thought that was a porkie because I remember my Dad telling me that unemployed men were made to pick stones and that was in the 1920s.

So, what might ordinary working people lose their jobs?
I'm not being facetious, it's a genuine question?

The very fact that you have to ask, as a genuine question or not, tells me all I need to know. How depressing.

Imo Starmer has been busy rebuilding this countries relationships with other countries; something that was somewhat sidelined by the previous government as they were too preoccupied with constant infighting and leadership elections.

I’m a Tory voter who defected to Labour.

For all of a day. 😩

MissAdventure

Didn't he work on a farm, then?

Well he's certainly milking it if he did!