Netanyahu crimes

There is no end to this war. There is nothing for anyone to win. If there were a sense that was common - and there's not - the fighting would stop. If little children were in charge, this might be a safer world.

Anniebach

Chief prosecutor for ICC is a member of the Muslim community? Such a surprise!

Were the lawyers in Israel who would have seen Netanyahu doing jail time by now also Muslim?
No, they were Israelis.
You can’t keep on with the same narrative Annie. Not everybody who is against Netanyahu is influenced by a Muslim/Muslims, especially those who abide by the letter of the law.

PS and to Oreo too.

Anniebach and Wyllow, Israel is not a Jewish state .Netanyahu want you to believe this as an excuse for his colonising aggression.

The Old Testament says it is wrong to steal and to covet other people's things. (Ten Cammandments)But Israel has extended its 1967 boundaries into other folks' lands and farms. Now Israel is colonising the whole Gaza strip and the West Bank. This is theft with violence, pure and simple.And nothing to do with Judaism!

Wyllow3

Here are the current judges of the ICC, with full details of their experience and the country they come from, it is definitely not dominated by judges who happen to be Muslim. In most cases they have long and very widespread experiences.

www.icc-cpi.int/judges/judges-who-s-who

And more importantly they abide by the law.
It seems that some think the ICC is as lax about the law as Netanyahu.
Easy trap to fall into I suppose.

Here are the current judges of the ICC, with full details of their experience and the country they come from, it is definitely not dominated by judges who happen to be Muslim. In most cases they have long and very widespread experiences.

www.icc-cpi.int/judges/judges-who-s-who

Wyllow3

I don't see thing like you at all Caleo.

I simply asked posters

"I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?"

I certainly don’t see things like Caleo either.
To answer your question, no I don’t think encroachment into the West Bank is a good idea and am baffled as to why Israelis want to live there.Limited incursions into it to take out terrorists when intelligence warrants it is another matter.
On Gaza, I can see the Northern half being kept by Israel as a buffer zone, but don’t know what will actually happen.

Chief prosecutor for ICC is a member of the Muslim community? Such a surprise!

@Oreo I doubt it.
There is growing condemnation from many non Muslims as well, and the ICC isn’t just one person.
That would be like saying that Starmer is biased because his wife is Jewish.

Anniebach

Israel is a Jewish state

Yes, it is.

"I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?"

Caleo

I am old enough to remember the last war, and can;t help thinking how all us decent people would have done out utmost to save Jews and others from Adolph Hitler. In the case of genocide in 2024 the perpetrator is , like Hitler in his day, an international criminal . It's small step to make it official!

Nonsense.
In any case Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor for the ICC is a member of the Muslim community so could be biased in this matter.

Israel is a Jewish state

I don't see thing like you at all Caleo.

I simply asked posters

"I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?"

Anniebach , Israeli is not the same as Jewish. Netanyahu wants us all to believe Israeli and Jewish mean the same . But they don't!

And BTW, Wyllow, our prime minister has already mostly gone over to the side of the American-Israelli complex.

How is that for a 'Labour' party" Bad show!

What terrorists wax Hitler saving Germany from ?

He wasn’t but let’s not stop yet another attempt to place full
blame on Israel, with the exception of our many Jewish
friends

Wyllow, it is obvious that the American-Israeli complex will win . Nevertheless it is good that we criminalise the spearhead of the aggressive power aka Netanyahu.

When the American-Israeli complex has colonised the UK we will not be allowed to say one word against its fascist leaders.

I am old enough to remember the last war, and can;t help thinking how all us decent people would have done out utmost to save Jews and others from Adolph Hitler. In the case of genocide in 2024 the perpetrator is , like Hitler in his day, an international criminal . It's small step to make it official!

I think this diverts away from the big questions - the end game, the future of the region.

I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?

I think Hamas has/had more than one person classed as a leader. IDF seem to think the same as they keep announcing they've killed this that or the other leader.

Some Hamas leader ! Hamas has governed Gaza since voted in
2007

Babs03

Tbh after the Birmingham bombing 50 years ago when the IRA bombed a nightclub killing and injuring many people, or after the IRA bombed Liverpool, London, and Manchester, the British government, if it took Netanyahus example, could have reduced NI to dust and slaughtered 45,000 innocent Irish people. Of course that isn’t what happened, despite IRA members hiding in peoples homes etc., and so presumably using them as human shields.
The fact is most countries don’t deal with terrorism in this way because it is unthinkable.
Sadly the attacks on Iraq after the terrorist bombings in the US set a precedent.
But only with Muslim countries in the ME.
I can only take away from this the fact that their lives matter less than ours.

I wonder if people would be so supportive of what Netanyahu is doing if he decided to start bombing British cities because some Hamas leader was believed to be here? I certainly wouldn't be impressed if family members were killed and his spokesman said they weren't targeting civilians but my loved ones just happened to be in the way.

madalene

^Wasn’t it the IDF who killed the 3 hostages who were free?^

Yes.
They weren’t free because they were still in Gaza.
They managed to escape from where they were being held.
The IDF mistook them for Hamas fighters.
It was terrible for those three people who lost their lives.
It was terrible for their families.
And it was terrible for the IDF members who mistook them for Hamas and killed them. I suspect they will be haunted by that for the rest of their lives.

The hostages I referred to yesterday were six in number, not three. They were executed with a bullet to the back of the head by Hamas because the IDF were nearby and would have liberated them very soon.

Just so we’re all clear.

If the IDF weren't executing unarmed people they wouldn't have killed them would they?

For over a year now I've followed reports of whats been happening in Gaza, been careful to check on verification etc, and there have been so many where the most terrible things have happened to Palestinian innocents as well - that could be listed and described here just as the shooting you describe. The overall death and injury toll, the wholesale destruction of the means to live and thrive, the blocking of aid at different points - has simply gone well beyond defence imo.

I'm clear that I do not believe that this Israeli regime has the right to annex the West Bank or Gaza -ie take over the whole region.

I'm interested to hear if anyone does agree with this, or if we are all (hopefully) wanting a "home" for both Israelis and Palestinians.

Wasn’t it the IDF who killed the 3 hostages who were free?

Yes.
They weren’t free because they were still in Gaza.
They managed to escape from where they were being held.
The IDF mistook them for Hamas fighters.
It was terrible for those three people who lost their lives.
It was terrible for their families.
And it was terrible for the IDF members who mistook them for Hamas and killed them. I suspect they will be haunted by that for the rest of their lives.

The hostages I referred to yesterday were six in number, not three. They were executed with a bullet to the back of the head by Hamas because the IDF were nearby and would have liberated them very soon.

Just so we’re all clear.