Netanyahu crimes

I agree that this is a very serious matter. Over the years I have come to very much sympathize with the people of Gaza. I've come to wonder just how many Palestinian lives a single Israeli life is worth. Per Netanyu it seems, the answer to that is at least 2,000 and counting.
Yes, I agree that the ICC should issue an arrest warrant for this despicable, power-hungry man. That he has committed multiple crimes against humanity goes without question. Bombing children, schools, hospitals, vital infrastructure and virtually all areas of domicile of the civilian population should not go without punishment, nor should anyone find such actions to be acceptable or justifiable in any way.
I'm also astounded that the international community is just standing by as Netanyahu expands his atrocities to other countries. Where or how does this all stop?

Thank you, Trip3. My thoughts exactly. I just don't understand when international countries sit back and watch innocents murdered without any protests. Like Rwanda and like Germany. Over again? Ukraine. Albania. Narive America. Australia. Murder and genocide must be stopped somehow. At least reported in news headlines please.

I wonder exactly what his intentions are, because his actions have gone beyond retaliation.
The Israelis have such a reputation for efficiency, I wonder how it was that the initial attack was 'allowed' to happen. They say they know where the terrorists groups are hiding, so I would have thought infiltration and assassination would have been more effective and avoided all those innocent civilian deaths.

They aimed missiles at tent enchantments of displaced families. Reminds me of late 1930s

Bernie Sandars: "If the world does not uphold international law, we will descend into further barbarism,"

Tzachi Braverman, Netanyahu's chief of staff is being investigated for altering phone logs. Seems Netanyahu delayed acting when he was first told of the Hamas attack. Braverman claims he was "correcting" the times on the logs and hasn't altered anything else.

Well that sounds suspicious

OldFrill

Tzachi Braverman, Netanyahu's chief of staff is being investigated for altering phone logs. Seems Netanyahu delayed acting when he was first told of the Hamas attack. Braverman claims he was "correcting" the times on the logs and hasn't altered anything else.

Yes, more than very suspicious. Which is why many Israelis and Jews all over the world believe what I mentionned before- that de deliberately delayed.

Asked repeatedly whether Mr Netanyahu would be arrested if he came to the UK, the spokesman said he would not get into “hypotheticals”.

Downing Street also declined to say whether Mr Netanyahu would be welcome to visit Britain in the future.

If I were Netanyahu I’d just stay home. Job done.

As regards the headlines today, it needs careful reading. At first glance the headlines suggest, "would arrest" on ICC warrants.

Its "A spokesperson for Downing Street said the Government respected the court and refused to rule out he would be arrested if he landed on British soil"

But it's important to know which ICC warrants are relevant here as there are many.

They are specific to the starvation of citizens in areas of Gaza, not the war as a whole

The warrants against Netanyahu and his former defense minister Yoav Gallant focus on allegations Israel has used food as a weapon in its campaign against Hamas in Gaza, a charge Israeli officials deny

Experts have warned that hunger has become widespread across Gaza and may have reached famine levels in the north of the territory, which is under siege by Israeli troops

I think Starmer is quite right not to make commitments in a changing situation, but I am glad that war-by-starvation is being called out.

It has struck me fir a while that it is strange that if the Hamas attack on 7 October was at dawn, why it took until early afternoon for the Israeli army to eventually appear. They will have been watching 24/7 anyway so should have seen the attack as it was happening. Many people will have phoned for help, yet it took hours until the Israeli army arrived.
Another thing, how was it not noticed over the preceding weeks that something might be happening. It’s an important border. Hamas will have had to get heavy things into position in the vicinity of the kibbutz.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Asked repeatedly whether Mr Netanyahu would be arrested if he came to the UK, the spokesman said he would not get into “hypotheticals”.

Downing Street also declined to say whether Mr Netanyahu would be welcome to visit Britain in the future.

If I were Netanyahu I’d just stay home. Job done.

I've also come to the conclusion that Netanyahu has gone well beyond defence. "Job done"? Should that include expanding into the Palestinian West Bank, which is not a threat to Israel, but land grabbing through settlement and then incorporation.

Conservatives are saying Starmer should have refused to heed the ICC warrants.

I couldn't disagree more

GB news -
"Top Tories responded with fury after a No10 spokesman refused to rule out arrested Israel's Prime Minister"

The only crimes against humanity have been those committed by Hamas, which deliberately sought to kill as many Israelis as possible, and makes no distinction between combatants and civilians.

As for the charge of “starvation as a method of warfare”, even UN officials acknowledge there is no evidence for this absurd fiction.

Mmm... seems criminals are ruling the world now. Are we doomed?

Netanyahu was elected by democratic vote. Why aren't the people of Israel calling him to account?

As for Hamas... they're no better but they were also voted in.

What a mess indeed.

Hamas was elected by democratic vote . Why are Palestinians
not calling them to account.

silverlining48

It has struck me fir a while that it is strange that if the Hamas attack on 7 October was at dawn, why it took until early afternoon for the Israeli army to eventually appear. They will have been watching 24/7 anyway so should have seen the attack as it was happening. Many people will have phoned for help, yet it took hours until the Israeli army arrived.
Another thing, how was it not noticed over the preceding weeks that something might be happening. It’s an important border. Hamas will have had to get heavy things into position in the vicinity of the kibbutz.

"The preceding weeks" are well documented in MSM. The Israeli Army "Watch women's" warnings were ignored
I've listened to some harrowing tales on the radio from surviving watch women.
There is plenty of information online about the watch women
Despite many calling for an investigation, Netanyahu has refused to have an enquiry into the circumstances until the war is over.

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67958260

Another thing, how was it not noticed over the preceding weeks that something might be happening. It’s an important border. Hamas will have had to get heavy things into position in the vicinity of the kibbutz.

I have posted on this before. It was noticed well before it happened. 'Spotters' sent reports of all sorts of unusual Hamas activity near the border, but it was ignored further up the intelligence line. My source for this, BTW, is the Financial Times. Not a paper given to publishing alarmism, conspiracy theories or rumours...

(Many of the spotters died in the Hamas attack)

X posts, OldFrill

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The only crimes against humanity have been those committed by Hamas, which deliberately sought to kill as many Israelis as possible, and makes no distinction between combatants and civilians.

As for the charge of “starvation as a method of warfare”, even UN officials acknowledge there is no evidence for this absurd fiction.

This report seems to contradict your assertions

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68679482

And this from the UN

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/un-experts-declare-famine-has-spread-throughout-gaza-strip

And past and current illegal expansion into the West Bank by the current Israeli regime? (No one ever seems to answer this when its brought up as its no defensible)

I think all western governments now know that Netanyahu has been disproportionate in his responses and broken numerous international laws with regard to recognising the rights of refugees. Even members of his own government and many Israelis - especially those with hostages still held - think enough is enough
To carry on now looks like a determined effort to eradicate all Palestinians in Northern Gaza and militarise it with the intent to occupy it at a later date.
This is increasingly likely.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Asked repeatedly whether Mr Netanyahu would be arrested if he came to the UK, the spokesman said he would not get into “hypotheticals”.

Downing Street also declined to say whether Mr Netanyahu would be welcome to visit Britain in the future.

If I were Netanyahu I’d just stay home. Job done.

And I’m sure he will.

The war crimes in this conflict have been committed by Hamas and Hezbollah (and the Houthis and Iran.) Hamas committed an appalling massacre of Jewish civilians on 07/10/23. They murdered over 1000 people in the most bestial way including gang raping young women and tying whole families together and burning them alive. They continue to fire rockets into Israel every day, along with Hezbollah, operating from Lebanon. Hamas took over 200 hostages back into Gaza, where their broken bodies were spat upon and jeered at by Gazans. When the IDF were close to liberating six of those hostages, Hamas shot them all in the back of the head. Some of those hostages have been kept in civilian flats, the civilians being teachers and doctors. We know this from what we’ve been told by some of the hostages who have been released.

Hamas loot the lorries carrying food and medicines into Gaza which is why there are shortages. They have used their citizens as human shields by inviting them into schools and hospitals from where Hamas are conducting acts of war against Israel. Hezbollah do the same, siting their weapons beneath residential buildings and hospitals. It’s a tactic of war for propaganda purposes. From their point of view the more civilian dead, the better the propaganda.

The world would do well to address the real problem which is the terrorist activities of Hamas and Hezbollah. If the world addressed this problem properly, perhaps Hamas and Hezbollah would be irradiated and that can only be a good thing, for the Israelis and the Palestinians. Both Israelis and Palestinians need an end to this conflict, and I along with everyone else, would like to see peace in this region. Waging war against Netanyahu will not achieve that aim, and will benefit no one, least of all, the Palestinians. It is antisemitism in its purest form.

Anniebach

Hamas was elected by democratic vote . Why are Palestinians
not calling them to account.

And Netanyahu supported the election of Hamas in order to split Palestinian allegiances.
Also how easy is it for a people fleeing for their lives, injured, dying of starvation etc., to even think of a political process whereby they can hold Hamas to account?
And not to put too fine a point on it most Palestinians are in no doubt as to who is killing them.