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Cheshire East Council Vote For 3 Week Bin Collections

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mae13 Thu 28-Nov-24 01:05:39

Although they have acknowledged that 84% of the residents have protested against it, citing a predictable increase in fly-tipping, vermin and general unpleasantness.

At the same time that Council Tax will be substantially increased we will be delivered less. Why? And I will scream if anyone, any politician, utters the mantra "well there's a 22billion Black Hole......"

Because I truly believe the fabled 22bn is just an all-purpose cynical excuse, as opposed to a genuine reason.

growstuff Thu 28-Nov-24 03:30:22

It depends how many bins they have. We have three: recyclable, non-recyclable and food waste. The first two are only collected every two weeks and I don't think increasing that to three weeks would cause a problem.

The food waste is collected every week and I would object if that were cut, especially in summer, when it can get a bit smelly. Nevertheless, the food waste caddies have lockable lids, so vermin can't get in.

Have you looked at East Cheshire's accounts? Maybe you'd be happy for an increase in your council tax to maintain services.

BlueBelle Thu 28-Nov-24 03:53:01

All our bins are collected fortnightly and works well I could easily do three weeks though all my food waste is used so I don’t really have any…. I m vegi so no meat or fish left overs all raw veg leftovers go to compost and most of any cooked left overs(rarely any) gets mixed with bread for my seagulls

I d wait and see how it goes before getting too annoyed
As for your last sentenced not worth answering

Mamardoit Thu 28-Nov-24 05:26:49

We would cope with three weekly collections. We create very little food waste. We compost most of it and double wrap any food waste we do have. Recycling is no problem because we can leave cardboard in a tied bundle at the side of the green bin. The green bin collection could be less often if the bins are big enough but the trouble is for families they aren't.

I still think three weekly collections of black bin waste is disgusting. In fact the switch to two weekly was a bad idea. How on earth will families cope. Many will have babies and toddlers in disposable nappies, they won't have garden compost bins. They have more waste than single or double occupancy households. My son lives in a flat with communal bins. Non flat dwellers dump their rubbish there and in the summer the smell and maggot infestation is awful.

I'm lucky because we live very close to a council tip and have a car so any excess rubbish is taken there.

escaped Thu 28-Nov-24 05:42:42

We are on a 3 weekly black bin cycle here. No problem at all. DD2 has two young ones in nappies, no problem either. We have one of the best recycling scores in the country.

Casdon Thu 28-Nov-24 07:19:17

We have had a three weekly black bin collection for several years, and there’s always room left in the bin when it’s collected. If you recycle everything you can it should be fine.

mumofmadboys Thu 28-Nov-24 07:24:02

I could easily cope with three weekly black bin collections

Liz46 Thu 28-Nov-24 07:32:10

Our general waste bin is emptied every two weeks. I once made the mistake of having fish just after it had been emptied. The weather was very hot and we got maggots. I have not made that mistake again!

Greyduster Thu 28-Nov-24 07:36:35

I think our council are planning something similar. We have fortnightly collections at the moment, They have been bombarding us with recycling questionnaires recently asking whether we could manage with smaller bins/fewer collections. I certainly could, but not sure how families would manage.

Astitchintime Thu 28-Nov-24 08:04:47

I think a lot depends on how households actively dispose of waste. Our raw fruit and veg waste gets put in the compost bin - garden cuttings, leaves, dead flowers etc, go in the garden waste - reusable paper/plastics/cardboard, tins go in the recycle bin and other waste, which should then be quite minimal goes in the general waste.
If people are of a mind to not be selective and chuck everything in the general waste, it would be no surprise to see that bin overflowing within a very short period of time. The smell would be horrendous too.
Councils do promote correct disposal of waste and I really wouldn't have a problem if there was a shift to three week collections in our locality.

cornergran Thu 28-Nov-24 08:18:59

Our council is introducing three weekly non recyclable collections soon. We’d be OK with a wheelie bin but in common with many areas here our waste is stored in bags. The foxes and cats already investigate the bags. We’re not sure how this will go.

BevSec Thu 28-Nov-24 08:30:52

Mae13, .i am with you all the way, including your last sentence, which is well worth answering and is very true. Our rates bill is over £300 per month and I expect a good bin collection service for that money.

MaizieD Thu 28-Nov-24 08:40:09

mae13

Although they have acknowledged that 84% of the residents have protested against it, citing a predictable increase in fly-tipping, vermin and general unpleasantness.

At the same time that Council Tax will be substantially increased we will be delivered less. Why? And I will scream if anyone, any politician, utters the mantra "well there's a 22billion Black Hole......"

Because I truly believe the fabled 22bn is just an all-purpose cynical excuse, as opposed to a genuine reason.

The fact that local councils have been underfunded by central government ever since the Thatcher years, and even more so since 2010, seems to have completely passed you by, mae13.

The mythical 'black hole' has nothing to do with councils attempts to cut costs, it's just part of the muddled thinking which goverments can get away with because, like the general populace, very few of them have enough interest in economics to judge clearly.

Casdon Thu 28-Nov-24 08:40:14

Councils need to spend their money on essential services BevSec. It’s not okay for households to produce large amounts of black bin waste, when most of it can be recycled. I’d far rather they repaired the roads.

Sago Thu 28-Nov-24 08:48:19

Our daughter lives in Cheshire East, the council is very badly run, roads are some of the worst in the country some rural bus services have been axed and in the nearest village to our daughter the council are imposing car parking charges.
The car parking fees will damage local businesses.

The council apparently has a huge deficit.

They a still paying the price after having a very corrupt leader.

Mamardoit Thu 28-Nov-24 08:55:34

I do have concern particularly about the food waste and nappies.
For many the first thing that comes to mind when council tax is mentioned is the bins. I can only speak from my experience but road sweeping, roadside litter removal and gritting is non existent where I live. The parish council now pay for someone to litter pick around the village centre. Any other litter picking is done by local people just doing their bit for the community.

I suspect very few on here are still dealing with a families worth of household waste. I've always recycled but when all six DC lived at home there is no way we would have coped with three weekly black bin collections.

Sago Thu 28-Nov-24 09:28:27

It will probably lead to fly tipping.

LizzieDrip Thu 28-Nov-24 09:44:42

We could easily cope with 3 weekly bin emptying.

Our council’s recycling is excellent. We have 4 large bins - ‘general’ rubbish, two recycling ones for separate materials and a garden rubbish one (which we pay extra for). We also have the food caddy.

We currently have two week emptying, but there’s always loads of space in the bins so three weeks would be fine.

GrannySomerset Thu 28-Nov-24 09:49:38

Not an issue for me but when DH was fully incontinent I did have to beg space in neighbours’ bins as two weeks worth was more than one bin could take - quite apart from any other non-recyclable rubbish.

Rosie51 Thu 28-Nov-24 10:02:03

The rubbish collection in my area is very good. We have 3 of the smaller size wheelie bins. The green top bin is for food and garden waste and is collected weekly. The blue top bin is for mixed dry recycling including paper, card, glass, cans and most plastic and is collected weekly. The black top bin is for anything else and is collected fortnightly. Being just a couple I could manage with a collection of blue or black top bins every 3 weeks, but the combined garden and food waste bin could be horrendous in summer after 3 weeks. In winter we often don't put it out every week as there's barely anything in it.

Just because we could manage with more spaced out collections now doesn't mean I'd have coped when I had 4 children living at home. It's as well to remember not everybody's household size and needs are the same. The lady next door is single and bedridden with carers coming in 3 or 4 times a day. Her large size black bin only just manages the two weeks, no way could it manage 3 weeks.

Casdon Thu 28-Nov-24 10:08:24

GrannySomerset

Not an issue for me but when DH was fully incontinent I did have to beg space in neighbours’ bins as two weeks worth was more than one bin could take - quite apart from any other non-recyclable rubbish.

Our council provides an additional ‘purple bag’ service for free in those circumstances, which is a good compromise I think. It would be worth people checking to see if their councils offer something similar.

Astitchintime Thu 28-Nov-24 10:18:44

Casdon

GrannySomerset

Not an issue for me but when DH was fully incontinent I did have to beg space in neighbours’ bins as two weeks worth was more than one bin could take - quite apart from any other non-recyclable rubbish.

Our council provides an additional ‘purple bag’ service for free in those circumstances, which is a good compromise I think. It would be worth people checking to see if their councils offer something similar.

Our local council does but they are yellow bags........rather like the clinical waste bags in hospitals. Well worth investigating.

JaneJudge Sat 30-Nov-24 11:20:17

we are an household of fiv3 adults plus one dog and we have a half sized general wheelie bin and in two weeks we hardly fill it. The normal sied recyling wheelie bin gets over full though in two weeks

Marydoll Sat 30-Nov-24 11:22:43

We have had three weekly black bin, blue and green bin , but weekly brown bin collections for years. We recycle everything.

cc Sat 30-Nov-24 11:36:20

We still have a weekly collection for everything and could probably manage two-weekly for recycling. Anything more would create storage problems for us as we live in a flat.
However since we live on an estate and have communal landfill bins which are full to the brim every week, I think that even a two-weekly collection of these would be problematic, unless people kept it inside their houses for longer. Even if food waste is separated some things like meat wrappings do make this very smelly.
If I look in the landfill bins it's pretty obvious that many people simply don't bother to recycle anything, particularly cardboard. It would make a huge difference to the quantity of rubbish if this was done. We have very large bins for cardboard near every block so it is very easy to recycle here.