Farage's humongous hypocrisy re economic migrants!

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

So you would be happy for British citizen being able to buy other nationalities, in order to not pay due taxes in the UK?

How does facilitating such things make him 'a man of the people' and the 'farmer's best friend'?

If he was a speaker at one of the conferences before he was elected as a constituency MP, then it is his business, not that I approve.

If he is going to speak at the next conference whilst being a sitting MP then it should be a matter for the parliamentary ethics committee.

Yes 👏👏👏

Certainly a sitting MP should not be advising or even attending any conference on how to evade taxes.

Tax avoidance is different, many of us may do that perfectly legally.

Wyllow3

Interesting (paid) connections between Farage and the company NOMAD

"WORLD’S #1 EVENT FOR GLOBAL CITIZENS
Spend four glamorous days learning the most up-to-date offshore tax strategies, wealth diversification strategies, and how to build your international Plan B. This is the one, can't-miss event to attend for actionable knowledge with 750+ like-minded guests from 40+ countries.

nomadcapitalist.com/live/

I quite fancied four glamorous days cigar tasting etc 🤔 so I clicked on this out of interest but is it a scam? I couldn't get rid of it and thought it might have b*ggered up my device!!

Wyllow3

I've posted this other thread, but I've been concerned about the lack of action by Farage as regards the Reform MP James McMurdock.

"Farage says Reform UK MP who repeatedly kicked girlfriend deserves ‘Christian forgiveness’
Reform UK leader said James McMurdock’s conviction for an assault on a partner was ‘a long time ago’

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-james-mcmurdock-reform-girlfriend-assault-b2655465.html

It emerged that Mr McMurdock was jailed 18 years ago for assault by repeatedly kicking his girlfriend, and he was jailed for it. He remains a Reform MP sitting in parliament.

I'm quite cross that Farage intends to do nothing about this. If a Labour Party Male MP hd been uncovered as assaulting a woman and serving a sentence for it there would have been shock horror outrage demands for suspension, but it looks as if he's just going to walk away from it.

Casdon

I agree Wyllow, I like to read any media I can access for free because there are such different takes on the same issue, and I think that’s the only way of getting a balanced view about whatever it is. I do particularly enjoy the Express, it has me spitting in my cornflakes every morning, I tell myself it’s good for the soul!

That is funny, spitting into your cornflakes! I read newspapers on the library app for free, as paywalls are frustrating when an article looks interesting!

I agree Wyllow, I like to read any media I can access for free because there are such different takes on the same issue, and I think that’s the only way of getting a balanced view about whatever it is. I do particularly enjoy the Express, it has me spitting in my cornflakes every morning, I tell myself it’s good for the soul!

A big problem is the paucity of access to read nearly all newspapers online. Although Sky often carries bits of other newspapers a day or so after. It was so much better when we had open access to a variety of POV.

I dont think anyone expects everyone to regularly read a source they dont like or agree with, like I only go to GB news when directed there by a GN poster or it comes up on a google.

But if we are to discuss an issue on GN together and a poster gives a reference as a key point in a discussion -or to kick off a discussion as the O/P - why not read just that article so as to be able to join in?

I With due respect, what's the point in coming into a discussion just to de facto say, "I won't be reading the article and joining in?"

(The Guardian, btw, does carry news that is of interest across the board, sometimes quite critical of the government, it doesn't pull its punches)

growstuff

BevSec

growstuff

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

Its because the Guardian articles do not reflect my views so there is little point.

I'm stunned! Are you seriously saying that you only take notice of anything which reflects your own point of view? Is that because you can't cope with your opinions being challenged?

As I have explained, I do look at other sources of information, I just dont bother with the Guardian as I really find it unbalanced

Wyllow3

Yesterday Bev this subject came up in the BJ thread, re reading different POV in newspapers, specifically the Guardian and you said (at 14.43 page 3)

"Yes you are right, its good to get other points of view, even if we don't agree with them".

Yes it is but I have attempted to read articles in the Guardian before and have not found them very readable or interesting.There are other sources to study apart from this one newspaper!

BevSec

growstuff

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

Its because the Guardian articles do not reflect my views so there is little point.

I'm stunned! Are you seriously saying that you only take notice of anything which reflects your own point of view? Is that because you can't cope with your opinions being challenged?

I've posted this other thread, but I've been concerned about the lack of action by Farage as regards the Reform MP James McMurdock.

"Farage says Reform UK MP who repeatedly kicked girlfriend deserves ‘Christian forgiveness’
Reform UK leader said James McMurdock’s conviction for an assault on a partner was ‘a long time ago’

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-james-mcmurdock-reform-girlfriend-assault-b2655465.html

It emerged that Mr McMurdock was jailed 18 years ago for assault by repeatedly kicking his girlfriend, and he was jailed for it. He remains a Reform MP sitting in parliament.

Yesterday Bev this subject came up in the BJ thread, re reading different POV in newspapers, specifically the Guardian and you said (at 14.43 page 3)

"Yes you are right, its good to get other points of view, even if we don't agree with them".

BevSec I would read articles in the Daily Mail if someone linked to them.
I would then check out the facts though to make my own mind up about it.

growstuff

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

Its because the Guardian articles do not reflect my views so there is little point.

Crossstitchfan

I’m beginning to be annoyed by the fact that, no matter what the subject, replies start turning into people’s personal grievances about what someone has innocently said. For example, in the above, the comment that it isn’t the Farage show was followed by someone immediately pointing out that Farage was the first word in the article! Can’t people just stick to the point?

That is the point!! 😜

Wyllow3

It aint over till the fat lady sings? 💁

Which just happens to be me!! 🙅‍♀️

Babs03

And I do get angry about Farage, simply because he is just giving those who follow him a load of old nonsense. He is a publicity hound simply chasing the camera. Has never held any political post down for long, except for when he jumped aboard the gravy boat as an MEP.
I dare say his constituents have already given up on the idea of actually being represented in Parliament.

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I don’t agree with much written in the Daily Mail but have read some parts of it on occasion, have also read the Mirror, the Telegraph and the Times, though my go-to paper is the guardian.
I also watch BBC news, Channel 4 news, Sky news, and Al Jazeera.
Is good to understand why some people form certain opinions or have existing opinions shored up.
Oh and have to add various Jewish publications I have read recently to counter balance or chime with Al Jazeera on the situation in Gaza

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

IMO, Farage and Trump, must be in the public eye and be lauded as the men who will save the country. This is surely only what they deserve (in their eyes). They have a need to feel relevant because otherwise they are nothing.

They will say whatever is required to have their sycophants praise them whilst not caring about anyone else but themselves. It doesn't bother them that they con people who are too blind to see they are grifters.

Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. They play the blame game stoking fears.

growstuff

nanna8

I haven’t heard any racist comments from him . They must’ve have been when I was asleep. I don’t like labelling people without proof .

Yes, you must have been asleep.

practically in a coma!

Galloway was anything but charming.

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Very worth a read. Some bits are shocking, too he was very young at the time, but its more the pattern of how he works with people/uses them and then moves on and re-invents himself that endures

Correction - a man who can be charming…

An interesting read NotSpaghetti, imho he is cut of the same cloth as Galloway, a man can be charming and talk until the cows come home but above and beyond that is a vain, shallow, and very unpleasant individual.
Am not sure reading this piece will convince diehard supporters though, they tend to have deeply held prejudices that Farage can appeal to every time.