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Keir Starmer Six Milestones speech and paper

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Shinamae Thu 05-Dec-24 21:47:56

LizzieDrip

It’s clear that, no matter what the Labour Government does, there are those on GN who will ridicule it. Hey ho🤷‍♀️

Well, they make it so easy… 🤓

Shinamae Thu 05-Dec-24 21:47:10

TakeThat7

He just talked about change and reform coming as far as I understood without examples of how Maybe I missed that Why did he mention his family were working class he's as far from working class as he could be What working class Dad pays out for a luxury place for his son to study After his speech I just thought he didn't say anything really just words

Reform is certainly coming!!

LizzieDrip Thu 05-Dec-24 21:35:16

It’s clear that, no matter what the Labour Government does, there are those on GN who will ridicule it. Hey ho🤷‍♀️

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 05-Dec-24 21:21:40

They are, indeed much needed. I think all of us can agree on that.

Maybe Starmer should have stuck to just three - Make people poorer, make them colder, boss them around more. That would have been honest and crisp, totally in synch with what he’s done so far, and he’d have been able to achieve them all.

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 20:56:11

Yes Casdon I think they are considerable and specific challenges not vague so pretty bold.

The housing, NHS, the police, are what people need badly. who can possibly say these aren't needed?

PoliticsNerd Thu 05-Dec-24 20:47:52

He was from a working class background with the luck of a good brain and effort to use it getting him where he is today. However, his three siblings didn't. Why are you jealous of his hard earned success?

He knows more than most that as well as hard work people need opportunity and is trying to explain that this is why he intends to make those opportunities available. It seems simple when you use facts not fiction to draw your conclusion TakeThat7

And where, oh where, does the idea his father paid for his education come from?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 05-Dec-24 20:36:40

What delicious irony to make this speech at the home of the “Carry On” films. That's made my day.

Jeanathome Thu 05-Dec-24 20:28:32

Sorry but a lot of poor wee children are doing full school days and wrap around care having just turned 4.

Let's see, be nice to have sone hope.

Casdon Thu 05-Dec-24 20:27:36

Yes, he was eazybee. There were calls for his resignation within a few months because of the formula 1 Tobacco advertising exemption, and the Cash for Honours scandal.

eazybee Thu 05-Dec-24 20:18:54

No, Tony Blair was not reviled in his early years of office. Disliked yes, but that was his personality, not his actions.

TakeThat7 Thu 05-Dec-24 20:13:08

He just talked about change and reform coming as far as I understood without examples of how Maybe I missed that Why did he mention his family were working class he's as far from working class as he could be What working class Dad pays out for a luxury place for his son to study After his speech I just thought he didn't say anything really just words

Mollygo Thu 05-Dec-24 20:00:58

I think it’s also unusual for a lot of the population to turn on a prime minister after such a short time in office………🤔

Probably due to the mistakes he made in the first few weeks -reneging on what he said when in opposition and doing it himself, the freebies etc.
People had enough of the behaviour of the previous government. It looked as if there wasn’t going to be an improvement, and then . . . The WFP removal, which he condemned under Sunak as a way of filling a ‘black hole’, and immediately did himself for the very same reason!

Casdon Thu 05-Dec-24 19:56:45

No, it’s not unusual Shinamae, have you forgotten how reviled Tony Blair was in his first few months in office? Or Liz Truss for that matter. People are always suspicious of change agents.

Shinamae Thu 05-Dec-24 19:43:57

Casdon

There is some good analysis on the news channels about each of the targets and the (considerable) challenges in achieving them. The NHS and housing targets are particularly tough I think. I’m glad he’s done this though, because it builds on the manifesto - it’s unusual for that to happen so explicitly once a party is in power.

I think it’s also unusual for a lot of the population to turn on a prime minister after such a short time in office………🤔

Casdon Thu 05-Dec-24 19:37:58

There is some good analysis on the news channels about each of the targets and the (considerable) challenges in achieving them. The NHS and housing targets are particularly tough I think. I’m glad he’s done this though, because it builds on the manifesto - it’s unusual for that to happen so explicitly once a party is in power.

PoliticsNerd Thu 05-Dec-24 19:25:07

Thanks Willow. Time to digest it properly. It's so good to have the text.

silverlining48 Thu 05-Dec-24 19:20:02

Thanks Wyllow, will read later.

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 19:03:45

Full text of speech
www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-on-plan-for-change-5-december-2024

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 19:02:20

Today's launch of a "here are our 6 milestones" speech, targets for 2029. A 43 page document
www.gov.uk/missions

* raising living standards in every part of the UK, as part of the government's aim to deliver the highest sustained economic growth in the G7 group of rich nations

* 
building 1.5 million homes in England and fast-tracking planning decisions on at least 150 major infrastructure projects

* 
ending hospital backlogs to meet the NHS target that 92% of patients in England wait no longer than 18 weeks for planned treatment

* 
a named police officer for every neighbourhood in England and Wales, with the recruitment of 13,000 additional officers, Police Community Support Officers (PCSOs) and special constables

* 
increasing the proportion of children in England who are "ready to learn" when they start school at the age of five, to 75%


* putting the country on track for at least 95% clean power by 2030

Secure borders and national security are also in the keynote speech

U tube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApNl4S--wYU&t=1715s long version

short version
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adzF1FO0Kg