Healthcare CEO shot in America

those clues were bullet casing
inscribed with the words “deny,” “depose,” and “defend.”
someone he loved was not treated
were where i live medical is never denied??????
duh, a hit
lots of tv shows and movies about this
rip brian

It’s not just a case of being able to afford care - it’s also because of insurers finding reasons to refuse claims for treatment prescribed by doctors.

A more minor thing, but my sister in the US (paying at the time IIRC $800 a month for cover for herself and her daughter) cut a finger very badly.
‘Well, at least you’re insured,’ said I.
‘You’re joking!’ she said. ‘There was a $2000 excess!’

And there we are, taking a free trip to A&E for granted - even if it’s not what it once was.

I gather amateur internet sleuths are usually all over helping the police usually - but not one peep out of them this time. In their position - I'd be keeping studiously quiet too on this occasion and saying absolutely nothing. It sounds like the last straw was these private health insurance companies are laying down just how long they expect anaesthetic to be used for during an operation. I guess any medic going could tell them that there is always the unexpected to take account of - ie it must be noticeably frequent for an operation (and therefore the anaesthetic for it) to take longer than expected.

Cue for the choice for the patient would be either 1. have an unexpected extra bill on waking up or 2. be in pain for the latter part of an operation. Both are unacceptable and the killer has probably heard of this happening already.

Baggs

*He can't be the only one who feels driven to this point*

Making excuses for murder is uncivilised. Anger, rage, frustration are all understandable but they do not excuse murder.

I know I could never murder anyone, but I do wonder if something specific pushed this man to do this.

Because I put the details in the post RosiesMaw. The title is just a header, all the details cannot be included in a short title. I’m sorry you disagree, but there is always the option to scroll on by. Besides, medical insurance in America is very different to private healthcare in this country, and this murder is being linked by NYP to healthcare provision in America, although at the moment, that appears to be speculation. If posters wish to discuss private healthcare in the UK, then that is where the thread goes, and entirely up to them. If they wish to wonder if the previous government was leading us towards private healthcare here in Britain, then again, that is where posters take the thread.

I have started a thread on an item in the news. Posters can discuss or not, as they wish, and the thread will go wherever it goes.

He can't be the only one who feels driven to this point

Making excuses for murder is uncivilised. Anger, rage, frustration are all understandable but they do not excuse murder.

Sarnia

It's a very clear picture of the assumed killer. It depends on whether anyone who can identify him comes forward. Possibly someone who has lost a loved one because they could not afford healthcare? I think the Police are thinking along those lines because of the message scratched into the bullet casings.

I love it that the public are behind him.
Residents are refusing to give up any cctv they have.

MaizieD

^Nor indeed that this should be the thread to discuss private healthcare- its pros and cons.^

I don't see why. It is specifically mentioned in the OP and is, quite frankly, a far more worthwhile and interesting topic to discuss than a random murder.

Anyway, the thread will go wherever it wants to go...

I take your point. But it is not specifically referred to in the thread title which purports to be about the shooting.
So if OP wanted to discuss private healthcare , why not start a thread about it?

He can't be the only one who feels driven to this point. If guns weren't so readily available over there, it would be a safer place both from the risk of a random killing spree and for the CEOs of these unpopular companies. Not only is the CEO dead but the perpetrator faces a life on the run or in prison in addition to what trauma brought him to this point.

Nor indeed that this should be the thread to discuss private healthcare- its pros and cons.

I don't see why. It is specifically mentioned in the OP and is, quite frankly, a far more worthwhile and interesting topic to discuss than a random murder.

Anyway, the thread will go wherever it wants to go...

It's a very clear picture of the assumed killer. It depends on whether anyone who can identify him comes forward. Possibly someone who has lost a loved one because they could not afford healthcare? I think the Police are thinking along those lines because of the message scratched into the bullet casings.

I’m not sure we can assume discrepancies in the private healthcare sector were the motive behind this shooting.
Nor indeed that this should be the thread to discuss private healthcare- its pros and cons.
Isn’t it likelier than the murderer had a personal motive? Or that perhaps this was a hit ?
Who knows, we are not the NYPD.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnv3dnm64vlo
gives basics

I saw that and like others "what was the motive" as it was clear it was planned, specific, targeted, and came to the same conclusion as the posters above. It is indeed a warning especially as they are about to make cuts in the most basic state health insurances (part of Musk's "2 trillion dollar" cuts plan).

Perhaps we should start really listening to the US voices which continually tell us how dire the privatised, insurance model, healthcare is in the US. And stop supporting its apologists, like Nigel Farage who favours a similar model.

Who knows what motivated the shooting of the medical insurance company CEO, but given the extent of the misery caused by the US healthcare system and the US love of shooting each other I wouldn't be surprised if it was a very angry individual.