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TIME Personality of the Year…. Trump. For the 2nd time.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 12-Dec-24 14:42:30

He’s just rung the bell on the NY Stock Exchange (considered an honour) to begin the day’s trading!

Cossy Sat 14-Dec-24 15:19:35

madeleine45

I have several titles I would award him but not that. Where shall I begin?

Moron of the Year
Chauvinist of the Year
Idiot of the Year
Inciter to violence in government of the year

Have many many more , but much of my thoughts would not be acceptable. It is bad enough to see such a selfcentred person being voted in, but what does it say about the people who voted for him?!!!!

Yup! 👏👏👏👏

Dickens Sat 14-Dec-24 16:04:52

I'm not sure The Times Person Of The Year is actually chosen for his or her worthiness - it's more to do with who might have made the biggest impact, newswise.

If that is the case, much as I dislike the man and what he stands for, I can see why they have chosen Trump.

I think the choice is meant to be sort of objective rather than ideological.

There may be many people who don't like Trump - including The Times own editorial staff among them, but he has certainly been influential - hence the choice.

Quite 'balanced' and democratic really, if you think about it - they won't base the choice on whether they like or dislike the individual.

Wyllow3 Sat 14-Dec-24 18:59:05

Shame they don't think in terms of "people who've made a difference for the good". Thunberg was on, one year, so its not just USA figures or it wasn't then.

MayBee70 Sat 14-Dec-24 20:10:43

The only upside of this is that Musk is probably seething that he wasn’t chosen.

Dickens Sat 14-Dec-24 21:05:13

MayBee70

The only upside of this is that Musk is probably seething that he wasn’t chosen.

He was The Times POTY in '21 - and was in fact on the short-list again this year.

As for Trump being nominated a second time, I believe every single American president has been nominated at least once - apart from Gerald Ford.

Among this year's short list were:
Kamala Harris
Kate Middleton (as some still refer to her)
Mark Zuckerberg
Benjamin Netanyahu
... and Musk again

The Times has a "morally neutral" criteria for selection. They choose the 'most influential person' - for good or bad... which would explain why these two were also selected back in the 30s when the 'award' was Man Of The Year.

Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin (Stalin twice).

Well, they certainly were influential hmm

Wyllow3 Sat 14-Dec-24 21:53:40

😳

Grantanow Sun 15-Dec-24 09:14:30

Of course it's simply that the owners think having T on the cover will sell more copies and gain more advertising revenue.

wibblywobblywobblebottom Sun 15-Dec-24 11:48:29

Time Personality of the Year isn't necessarily a good thing. It's awarded to the person who has had the most influence on the year, for better or worse. Hitler and Stalin have both received awards. It's also traditional, with a few exceptions, for the American president to receive the award. The whole idea is a lot of nonsense anyway.

Goldieoldie15 Sun 15-Dec-24 11:53:11

For goodness sake: the Time magazine, a highly improbable arbiter of virtue. Best ignore

knspol Sun 15-Dec-24 11:56:38

Well, he's certainly a 'personality' - of sorts!

Camry1952 Sun 15-Dec-24 12:21:13

Of course Trump will think he is being honored and it feeds his massive ego. The truth is that he has no morals or conscience and he and his cronies are set to form a dictatorship in America. And the frightening thing is that he'll get away with it like he has with everything else.I am from the U.S. and I am appalled that so many people here have supported him. They'll wake up soon when their rights are being taken away.

Annma Sun 15-Dec-24 12:42:10

Don’t buy or support Time magazine.To support a felon who is awful is appalling.

suelld Sun 15-Dec-24 13:18:14

Wyllow3

Obama - one of the good guys 👏👏👏........probably not the Nobel prize but the last decent POTUS. Intelligent and caring.

Hear hear!
TRUMP = 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

spabbygirl Sun 15-Dec-24 13:21:45

madeleine45

I have several titles I would award him but not that. Where shall I begin?

Moron of the Year
Chauvinist of the Year
Idiot of the Year
Inciter to violence in government of the year

Have many many more , but much of my thoughts would not be acceptable. It is bad enough to see such a selfcentred person being voted in, but what does it say about the people who voted for him?!!!!

Hi ha!!! well said Madeleine! I was astonished that he got in & think America will regret that. I think it's strange but true that some people have got magnetic personalities yet are crap rulers like Boris.
Whatever charisma they have I wish we could bottle it and give some to Keir Starmer who seems a perfectly diligent PM but is as dull as ditchwater!
They have some great people in the party though who do have more charisma, Darren Jones, Chris Bryant & more

Keeper1 Sun 15-Dec-24 13:23:49

Well they talked about Putin quite a lot too

Wyllow3 Sun 15-Dec-24 13:28:46

Camry1952

Of course Trump will think he is being honored and it feeds his massive ego. The truth is that he has no morals or conscience and he and his cronies are set to form a dictatorship in America. And the frightening thing is that he'll get away with it like he has with everything else.I am from the U.S. and I am appalled that so many people here have supported him. They'll wake up soon when their rights are being taken away.

A sort of plutocracy/dictatorship in the making Camry, looking at the line up of appointees - I just hope for you and others that when it comes to certain measures he will meet obstacles from his own Senate as well as States who oppose him and that he can't seize total control of the judiciary. Healthcare is crucial for his poorer voters and I doubt he will make things better as he's hand in glove with the big insurance firms.

rocketship Sun 15-Dec-24 14:30:03

The USA and the rest of the world better BUCKLE UP !!

It's going to be a rough four years~~ sad shock

Frenchgalinspain Sun 15-Dec-24 16:01:23

madeleine45

I have several titles I would award him but not that. Where shall I begin?

Moron of the Year
Chauvinist of the Year
Idiot of the Year
Inciter to violence in government of the year

Have many many more , but much of my thoughts would not be acceptable. It is bad enough to see such a selfcentred person being voted in, but what does it say about the people who voted for him?!!!!

I agree with you 100% ..

Just to note, what I have to say would not be polite here on this forum or any other forum.

Frenchgalinspain Sun 15-Dec-24 16:09:44

Camry1952

Of course Trump will think he is being honored and it feeds his massive ego. The truth is that he has no morals or conscience and he and his cronies are set to form a dictatorship in America. And the frightening thing is that he'll get away with it like he has with everything else.I am from the U.S. and I am appalled that so many people here have supported him. They'll wake up soon when their rights are being taken away.

Any man or woman who does not abuse their children, and separates parents from their children, migrants or not, is cruel

They are busy building outsourced detention centres !

We may not wish to be overloaded with migrants (non criminal) however, they do not deserve to be treated like rats or mice ..

Very sad ..

And his legal wife, has expressed her negativity regarding abortion rights and that this measure is a woman´s personal rights - not government ..

It is also in her new book as well as she stated in public.

She is living in Manhattan as he son Baron is attending university in Manhattan.

She is terribly embarrassed by the 4 letter curse words that Trump belts out in public.

Very ignorant to say the least ..

Jockytaff Sun 15-Dec-24 16:20:15

To minimoon - it's the USA - 99% of its people are bonkers.

Mojack26 Sun 15-Dec-24 16:34:57

Totally....Brave brave woman!

madeleine45 Sun 15-Dec-24 16:56:18

I would have much preferred Trump to ring the bell on the Titanic!!

Arto1s Sun 15-Dec-24 17:56:25

Once again I will be the lone voice among all the haters. Have great hopes for our country now. Well deserved recognition by Time Magazine.

Arto1s Sun 15-Dec-24 18:41:35

madeleine45 You are actually wanting another human being to be dead. You are unbelievable.

Elegran Sun 15-Dec-24 19:04:21

From across the pond, the view of Trump is clearer and in a better perspective than it seems to be from closer up. I hope you are right in the US, but I fear you are misled by his own high opinion of himself.