Now the Police want to WFH?

Of course it has, but some of the impact has been positive, such as the ability for more people to work more flexibly.

I would say covid has had a massive impact on society, it would be weird if it hadnt I suppose.

theworriedwell

Allira

petal53

I never see a police officer.
Is that progress?

They're often seen sitting in a layby waiting for unsuspecting motorists who might be doing 24 mph.

I wish they'd come and sit on the 30mph road behind my house where 40 is normal and 50 isn't unusual. Housing estate one side of the road and primary school this side so it is really dangerous. I suppose we have to wait for a child to be seriously hurt or killed before they come and wait for the poor unsuspecting motorists who are breaking the law.

Definitely a case for speed bumps or similar road management anywhere near to the school.

Sarnia

This country has gone to pot since Covid. WFH is just one example.

Why?

Doodledog

I meant 'normal' in the sense of the general norm. I worked from home in the 90s, but most people didn't, so whilst it was normal for me, it wasn't 'the norm'.

Asking for things to 'go back to normal' only makes sense when 'normal' is static. Covid has shifted 'normal' so that employers and employees both realise the benefits of working from home for at least part of the week, and people being able to pick up children or fit in exercise is one of them.

If we wanted things to stay as 'normal' many of us would be leaving school at 14 and be trekking out to the fields to work as labourers for The Master, scullery maids for The Mistress at the Big House, or perhaps be called Luddites.

This country has gone to pot since Covid. WFH is just one example.

RosiesMaw2

I despair.
Honestly, I’d laugh if it wasn’t so tragic.
Police stations are closed, burglaries and car/bike thefts put on the back burner,a blind eye is turned to shoplifting, members of the public threatened with prosecution over “non criminal hate incidents” -surely a subjective judgement - and now the police want to Work From Home
Do you ever feel failed by our public services?

It is the ‘back room boys’ administration, intelligence, analysts for example who are working from home, not front line police.
They are nevertheless required to attend cohort meetings at headquarters, seminars, courses, twice yearly assessments, MH monitored, camaderie lost, a stressful career whether frontline or behind the scenes collating evidence, solving crimes, doing their best.

Allira

petal53

I never see a police officer.
Is that progress?

They're often seen sitting in a layby waiting for unsuspecting motorists who might be doing 24 mph.

I wish they'd come and sit on the 30mph road behind my house where 40 is normal and 50 isn't unusual. Housing estate one side of the road and primary school this side so it is really dangerous. I suppose we have to wait for a child to be seriously hurt or killed before they come and wait for the poor unsuspecting motorists who are breaking the law.

I meant 'normal' in the sense of the general norm. I worked from home in the 90s, but most people didn't, so whilst it was normal for me, it wasn't 'the norm'.

Asking for things to 'go back to normal' only makes sense when 'normal' is static. Covid has shifted 'normal' so that employers and employees both realise the benefits of working from home for at least part of the week, and people being able to pick up children or fit in exercise is one of them.

It is normal for my son too as he has worked from home for 10 years now.

It was my normal and others well before covid.

The thing is, though, that what is 'normal' changes over time, and it's now normal for people to work from home, if they want to.

So anecdotal as are others' posts.

Different experiences are valid.

I’m sorry I don’t want to go into details as very personal. I don’t want an argument on here. Just feel it is better that following covid everything goes back to normal as much as possible I do not believe WFH is the way forward. I won’t be commenting any further on this subject.

I worked from home as a freelance for over 20 years because there were no office jobs available locally in my speciality. My clients sent me assignments by email. There was no need at all to interact with anybody. This arrangement fitted in very well with picking up children from school, etc. Also, no stress from travelling and no need for office clothes.

OMG! Bring back Dixon of Dock Green!

"Hate Crime and isn’t subjective and it is a crime".......
Why was I told that I had to bring civil action against my perpetrators when I was the victim of Hate Crime 3 years ago? The police did not want to know despite countless witnesses coming forward.

GrannyIvy

cossy I know there are many like yourself and your daughter but there are always those that will abuse WFH and I have come across a few of them lately boasting about what they do when supposedly working hence my anger !

If they're not fulfilling their role others will know.

Some people could wander around in an office for hours, with a piece of paper in their hand, doing absolutely nothing.

petal53

I never see a police officer.
Is that progress?

They're often seen sitting in a layby waiting for unsuspecting motorists who might be doing 24 mph.

GrannyIvy

cossy I know there are many like yourself and your daughter but there are always those that will abuse WFH and I have come across a few of them lately boasting about what they do when supposedly working hence my anger !

Can I ask why it angers you, if you don't work with these people, so aren't picking up any slack?

Also, how do you know that 'supposedly working' applies? Not all jobs are 'in the moment', so someone could have a working day that they choose to break into hours that allow for a chunk of time to pick up children and go for a run, but then get back to work in the evening, or even to give a Saturday to work and do a bit less Monday to Friday. If by the end of the week their workload is complete, why would you be angry?

Obviously people who have jobs where they interact with the public cannot WFH every day.

GrannyIvy

WFH annoys me. Look at how many dads are now at the school pick as they can WFH and childcare their kids!!!! Mums too!! They go out running and off for the their well-being mental health walks, Oh and take laptop and hog tables in cafes. …. What a nonsense this all is. Get them back in the office to interact with colleagues much better for their mental health and work productivity.

Sorry that’s my opinion!!! I hear them talking about it in the school playground. The world continues to go bonkers !!!

No police ever seen in my little town. Illegal parking everywhere. No traffic wardens either do they WFH 🤷‍♀️

Members of my family WFH.
I can tell you that on the days they do, they can be far more productive than having to spend hours driving to various areas of the country although sometimes it is necessary. They can start work at 6.30 am which means they can afford to take half an hour off to pick up a child from the school bus, then carry on work - still putting in a 10 hour day rather than spending 1 or 2 hours commuting each way.
They can interact with colleagues if necessary by online meetings.

Also, someone can feel slightly under par, but can work from home for a couple of days rather than risk passing bugs on to colleagues.

The world has changed.

cossy I know there are many like yourself and your daughter but there are always those that will abuse WFH and I have come across a few of them lately boasting about what they do when supposedly working hence my anger !

If I think back to my role when I worked in police admin the bit that would worry me about work from home would be confidentiality of sensitive material but that would vary with the role.

Rosie51

For the sake of accuracy it should be made clear it's police staff not police officers who are threatening to strike. It's actually illegal for police officers to strike, one of only a very few groups (prison officers and the armed services being the others) so prohibited. Might explain why they don't get big pay awards?

So glad someone pointed that out. I used to work in a support role with the police, at that time our union was NALGO and if a strike was called we were allowed to make our own decision so no being accused of being a scab. The fire service support staff were the same but the police officers couldn't strike and they still can't.