Now the Police want to WFH?

I’m not really sure how most Police roles could be WFH, but all the admin can certainly be done from home.

Hate Crime and isn’t subjective and it is a crime.

I’d love to see all the closed local Police Stations re-opened, however in our area they have been sold to private developers, I’d also like to see many more “Bobbies on the beat”

Sorry too many “ands”

I really really need an edit button

I remember when every large village had a police house, the constable used to tour the smaller surrounding villages on his bike. He knew exactly who was doing what and any problems were swiftly dealt with.

Now the entire south of the county has one daytime police station, closed at night, it’s called progress.

Cossy I agree with more Bobby’s on the beat I was in your neck of the wards last night, and for the first time locally I felt a measure of vulnerability despite being with DH and the GC.

The demographics were an eye opener and their behaviour was not what I am used to, despite being just up the road

I think the non criminal hate judgements will slowly disappear, they are rarely successful and certainly when legal action is taken by those accused such as the Harry Miller case the accused win.

Just to add I am in a public facing role, my admin is done at home.

Mass shop lifting burglaries and violence are on a large scale it’s a free for all. There are no police around unless there is a major incident so there is no deterrent to stop crime. I do feel failed but my concern is for the future for our grandchildren if it’s bad now what will it be like then.

Galaxy

I think the non criminal hate judgements will slowly disappear, they are rarely successful and certainly when legal action is taken by those accused such as the Harry Miller case the accused win.

I really hope that’s the case.
I think that admin work done by those working for the police would be better done in an actual police station but due to closures that may not be possible.I don’t want to knock the police too much but have noticed that when it comes to logging incidents/arrests they often go for the low hanging fruit.
The Matt joke made me 😆

GrannyGravy13

Cossy I agree with more Bobby’s on the beat I was in your neck of the wards last night, and for the first time locally I felt a measure of vulnerability despite being with DH and the GC.

The demographics were an eye opener and their behaviour was not what I am used to, despite being ^just up the road^

Indeed it’s sad isn’t it!

Luckily for us, we’ve lived here, in the same house for just over 35 years and not have we seen changes!

But, we have great thoughtful neighbours and have made some great friends. I’ve recently joined a community choir, full of lovely like minded people.

However, we used to have a police station 5 minutes away from us and I truly wish it was still there! I don’t like being out after dark at all if I’m alone.

The days of a police officer on the beat are long gone and will
not return

Goodness, that should read “boy have we seen some changes”!

We desperately need a much larger Police presence on all our streets.

Police work from home already.

this latest news is a dispute over how much they work from home

read details here

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/dec/11/met-police-staff-vote-to-strike-over-curbs-on-working-from-home

which includes what roles are included

WFH annoys me. Look at how many dads are now at the school pick as they can WFH and childcare their kids!!!! Mums too!! They go out running and off for the their well-being mental health walks, Oh and take laptop and hog tables in cafes. …. What a nonsense this all is. Get them back in the office to interact with colleagues much better for their mental health and work productivity.

Sorry that’s my opinion!!! I hear them talking about it in the school playground. The world continues to go bonkers !!!

No police ever seen in my little town. Illegal parking everywhere. No traffic wardens either do they WFH 🤷‍♀️

Hate Crime and isn’t subjective and it is a crime
By definition non criminal hate incidents are not hate crime
They are what it says on the tin. Non criminal.
Any incident where a crime has not been committed, but where it is perceived by the reporting person or any other person that the incident was motivated by hostility or prejudice based on: a person's race or perceived race. a person's religion or perceived religion
I am not saying it is morally right, it may be entirely repugnant, but “perceived by the reporting person as motivated by prejudice” most certainly IS subjective by definition and not within the remit of our police force.

For the sake of accuracy it should be made clear it's police staff not police officers who are threatening to strike. It's actually illegal for police officers to strike, one of only a very few groups (prison officers and the armed services being the others) so prohibited. Might explain why they don't get big pay awards?

Rosie51

For the sake of accuracy it should be made clear it's police staff not police officers who are threatening to strike. It's actually illegal for police officers to strike, one of only a very few groups (prison officers and the armed services being the others) so prohibited. Might explain why they don't get big pay awards?

Absolutely it isnt affecting police on the street or not and as I referenced just a bit upthread people are WFH already the dilute is how much.

GrannyIvy

WFH annoys me. Look at how many dads are now at the school pick as they can WFH and childcare their kids!!!! Mums too!! They go out running and off for the their well-being mental health walks, Oh and take laptop and hog tables in cafes. …. What a nonsense this all is. Get them back in the office to interact with colleagues much better for their mental health and work productivity.

Sorry that’s my opinion!!! I hear them talking about it in the school playground. The world continues to go bonkers !!!

No police ever seen in my little town. Illegal parking everywhere. No traffic wardens either do they WFH 🤷‍♀️

I’ve worked from home in three different roles across the years.

Many WFH roles are project or admin based, work which can be done at almost any hour of the day, so long as deadlines are met.

As for productivity, for most people WFH, it’s much higher. For me, I was at my laptop ready to work with a hot cuppa around 7:45am, I didn’t take coffee breaks, I wasn’t interrupted by passing staff. We had team catches for 30 minutes every day at 8:45am and full team meetings once a week.

I normally took 30 minutes for lunch and finished up around 6pm

Ditto my daughter who works from home 4 out of 5 days each week, she starts around 8:30am, 20 mins lunch break, often not finishing up until after 6:00pm.

RosiesMaw2

^Hate Crime and isn’t subjective and it is a crime^
By definition non criminal hate incidents are not hate crime
They are what it says on the tin. Non criminal.
Any incident where a crime has not been committed, but where it is perceived by the reporting person or any other person that the incident was motivated by hostility or prejudice based on: a person's race or perceived race. a person's religion or perceived religion
I am not saying it is morally right, it may be entirely repugnant, but “perceived by the reporting person as motivated by prejudice” most certainly IS subjective by definition and not within the remit of our police force.

Sorry Rosie I clearly didn’t read your original comment properly.

We have named PC’s and PCSO’s on the beat locally, their mobile numbers are freely available too, it’s a Hampshire wide initiative.
A lot of admin can be done at home across many business establishments now, it was a good 70% of my last job and my previous one in the 90’s.

To be honest, I'm not sure where our local police work because there isn't a police station for miles.

We have a PCSO, but the local town council pays for him, not the regular police.

Wyllow3

Rosie51

For the sake of accuracy it should be made clear it's police staff not police officers who are threatening to strike. It's actually illegal for police officers to strike, one of only a very few groups (prison officers and the armed services being the others) so prohibited. Might explain why they don't get big pay awards?

Absolutely it isnt affecting police on the street or not and as I referenced just a bit upthread people are WFH already the dilute is how much.

Thank you Wyllow, bit of a knee jerk reaction from me following on from HMRC and Civil Servants WFH!

Nevertheless, and this is another topic, I don’t think WFH is without serious failings- the MH advantages of getting out of the house, the social advantages of the workplace (camaraderie, group identity) the spin off from reduced footfall in town and city centres, the extra expense of heating your home during what used to be considered the working day, the pressure on space in the average home, as not everybody has a dedicated space to use as their study, the pressures on particularly women to somehow combine WFH, childcare and all the domestic “stuff”.
I could go on, but I’d better not!

Jaxjacky

We have named PC’s and PCSO’s on the beat locally, their mobile numbers are freely available too, it’s a Hampshire wide initiative.
A lot of admin can be done at home across many business establishments now, it was a good 70% of my last job and my previous one in the 90’s.

Thats good. Its also in line with one of the governments 6 targets

4) Putting police back on the beat with a named officer for every community and 13,000 additional officers, PCSOs and special constables

I think it is quite complicated though, I would say one of the biggest impacts on my mental health is commuting into work, and I would also say it is absolutely not my obligation to prop up the profits of shops, cafes, etc in city centres.
I think however there is considerable benefit in discussing work face to face with colleagues.