Yvette Cooper gets minced

At least Yvette Cooper goes out and meets her constituents. Unlike cowardly Nigel.

Anniebach

Will Farage supporters please say how the boats can be stopped
within a couple of months ?

Well, I've asked this so many times, and answer - there is none.
Yet people continue to quote it. Its always evaded.

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Will Farage supporters please say how the boats can be stopped
within a couple of months ?

I don't think it is great to call people illegal and grumble about a bit of money to treat people with a bit of decency.

A bit of money? A bit? I suppose it all depends on what you think a bit is.

The Home Office has repeatedly spent far more than budgeted for asylum, border, visa and passport operations in recent years. One of the largest pressures was for costs relating to asylum and illegal migration, with an estimated *£6.4 billion< of pressures on day-to-day spending in 2024–25.

Primrose53

petra

I’ve never been a fan of Yvette Cooper, but, what I do know is: she is doing more to stop the boats than any other Home Secretary.
And before anyone says show us the proof I can’t.

She should be down on the South coast right now stopping the boats instead of handing out mince pies.

Reports are that as 5 very mild and calm days are forecast thousands of people are queuing up at Calais to get here. Let’s see what she actually does to stop the boats now!

Smugglers are advertising a “Christmas Special”.

Please can you direct me to the Christmas Special?

I have friends who may be interested.

Thanks.

Dickens

Chocolatelovinggran

So - an elected representative listened to a constituent who listed her shortcomings.
Well done to both, I'd say, celebrating our rights as citizens to declare our views and the ability of an MP to take it on the chin.

Ex-actly!

I agree Dickens

I've heard reports that Farage is offering two visas for the price of one, and an amnesty on all family members under the age of 90 for the price of a pint.

Maybe not all reports are equal?

Primrose53

petra

I’ve never been a fan of Yvette Cooper, but, what I do know is: she is doing more to stop the boats than any other Home Secretary.
And before anyone says show us the proof I can’t.

She should be down on the South coast right now stopping the boats instead of handing out mince pies.

Reports are that as 5 very mild and calm days are forecast thousands of people are queuing up at Calais to get here. Let’s see what she actually does to stop the boats now!

Smugglers are advertising a “Christmas Special”.

Well, its Reform Policy to "stop the boats" directly but they don't actually say how it can be done, perhaps you can tell us?

She also simply didn't give Yvette Cooper time to actually reply or engage with her despite attempts, its clear in the clip.

Primrose53

Wyllow3

She also says she did not vote labour at the last election, she is not as the O/P stated a "lifelong voter".

She said she had always voted Labour until this last time when she didn’t. so my post is correct.

I could say I voted Reform until I realised that they are a very divisive and damaging 'party' (or whatever they call themselves). Would that make it true?

Grunty

I neither know nor care what your political persuasion is AGAA4, I simply don't see what is remotely goady in posters discussing the subject. But maybe you're more susceptible to what goads you.

What is 'the subject', though?

A 'political' heckler, a party-pooper, someone wanting to spoil the Christmas gesture, or the policies of Yvette Cooper, which will still be available for criticism or applause after the NY.

Even soldiers in wartime have held truces over Christmas, and it doesn't get much more 'goady' than the trenches.

petra

I’ve never been a fan of Yvette Cooper, but, what I do know is: she is doing more to stop the boats than any other Home Secretary.
And before anyone says show us the proof I can’t.

She should be down on the South coast right now stopping the boats instead of handing out mince pies.

Reports are that as 5 very mild and calm days are forecast thousands of people are queuing up at Calais to get here. Let’s see what she actually does to stop the boats now!

Smugglers are advertising a “Christmas Special”.

Wyllow3

She also says she did not vote labour at the last election, she is not as the O/P stated a "lifelong voter".

She said she had always voted Labour until this last time when she didn’t. so my post is correct.

An MP is out in the community and is heckled by a woman. This has never happened before? Most MPs will have had their share of this and rightly so but it's hardly worth mentioning the mince pie incident.

Well, at least Yvette restrained herself and didn't push a mince pie into her face 😁
Remembering John Prescott.

I don't think it is great to whine about money being spent on climate research, just very shortsighted.
I don't think it is great to call people illegal and grumble about a bit of money to treat people with a bit of decency.
I am not a fan of Starmer's top team but the woman who was ranting on just sounded a bit selfish, not great.

I neither know nor care what your political persuasion is AGAA4, I simply don't see what is remotely goady in posters discussing the subject. But maybe you're more susceptible to what goads you.

Grunty

^Well done for starting a very goady thread.^

It's only goady because it doesn't align with your political persuasion. If it had been about Boris or Farage no doubt you'd have found it "topical".

How do you know what my political persuasion is? I didn't vote Labour or conservative but I still think this is a goady thread.
An MP is out in the community and is heckled by a woman. This has never happened before? Most MPs will have had their share of this and rightly so but it's hardly worth mentioning the mince pie incident.

I'm always wary of these normal, everyday people who ",somehow," find themselves as minor celebrities.

You cannot make a flat statement of fact: 'I know she is doing more than any Home Secretary.....' and and at the same time refuse to supply evidence to verify it.
What exactly do you know?

This us the GB news video. Open to interpretation it seems. GB news contacted her through her Facebook page.
www.gbnews.com/politics/politics-news-yvette-cooper-viral-mince-pie-voter-latest

Oh. Sorry for the rubbish formatting.

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1261633-Banning-milkshakes-to-save-Farage

That link should click through.

Wyllow3

Well I did watch the video (not the one Primrose referenced, (as it has hardly any in it), but the GB interview

At the end of the interview, she punches the air, and shouts clearly "Vote Reform!!!!!!!

its absolutely clear where she's coming from, and all the guff about "Accidentally laving her phone on" and her son"loading it onto tik Tok without her knowledge"

I've watched the GB news video too. At the beginning she states she lifelong labour but didn't vote for Yvette Cooper last time. When she punched the air at the end it was more jocular than sincere (my interpretation).
I don't think it was staged and lied about her son uploading it. If you read her Facebook page comments (by those who know her) it doesn't suggest she's a Reform supporter.

Mollygo

Funny (peculiar) that this thread should be called spiteful because it’s criticising a Labour MP.
Should all the posted criticisms of the previous government’s MPs be reclassified now?

Are the comments on the thread criticising YC, or the publicity-seeking woman who heckled her? I am as unbiased as anyone on here claims to be*, but I see the thread as being about not very thinly-veiled approval of the stunt. The comments, on the other hand, are largely about the inappropriateness of the disruption of a gesture of goodwill at Christmas that has gone on for decades.

Of course there are the usual complaints that if anyone comments on unpleasantness they are somehow not 'allowing' freedom of speech, as though anyone has the power to 'allow' anything. Most of us have progressed beyond deferring to others for speech and behaviour boundaries, but the idea of being 'allowed' to do or say things by other posters persists.

If it had been Farage in the supermarket, handing out mince pies, would you have been similarly disdainful that he'd been approached and heckled? No? Thought not.
The trope that posters were all in favour of nastiness when it was aimed at Tory politicians is nonsense, and has been from the start of the relentless negativity that started on here before the election. [[https://www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1261633-Banning-milkshakes-to-save-Farage Here is a thread that was posted when someone threw milkshake at Nigel Farage. Many posters have changed names, but there is little or no support for disruptive behaviour, even towards such an extreme figure as Farage.

It is not the average poster who is biased in favour of 'their' party - the bias comes from those who say that saying anything other than 'KS and his cabinet are all evil and incompetent' is hypocrisy, and that Labour voters were all in favour of lynching the Tories for the 14 years they were in power. It's just not true.

She also says she did not vote labour at the last election, she is not as the O/P stated a "lifelong voter". So what? What does it matter who she voted for? Just because she didn't vote for Labour does that mean that she shouldn't voice her opinion? She shouldn't have taken the opportunity to speak to a politician when the opportunity arose? Is it just Reform supporters that you'd like to keep quiet or everyone who's opinion doesn't align with your own? What is her being "a lifelong voter" to do with anything? The venue, the time of year, whether she had her phone on or not, the ruddy mince pies..... none of that has anything to do with that woman's absolute right to voice her opinions on a political party and it's progress or lack of it