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Reform. 140,748 members and counting. The Tories are well and truly in trouble!

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 27-Dec-24 14:50:32

Kemi Badenoch has got herself embroiled in a spat with Nigel Farage over whether or not this figure is real.
Silly girl.
She ought to have ignored the hype in my opinion.
Now she’s set herself up as a combatant and Farage will want an apology. Or more.

petal53 Fri 27-Dec-24 15:00:41

A bit of a row brewing I think.

Allira Fri 27-Dec-24 15:06:29

Is that reflected in the votes, though?

Labour370,000
Reform UK141,750
Conservatives132,000
Liberal Democrats90,000
SNP 70,000
Green Party 59,000
Plaid 10,000

27 December 2024

Anniebach Fri 27-Dec-24 15:11:08

Surely Farage will threaten to sue her, he is very fond of threatening to sue

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Dec-24 15:17:50

Of course you had to join if you wanted to hear him speak.
I understand it's £10

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 27-Dec-24 15:23:06

KB has judged this wrong. It’s free publicity for NF. Gives him an open goal.
Silly KB. A knee jerk reaction. I think she’ll regret passing a comment.

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Dec-24 15:26:05

I agree. She shouldn't have commented.

Maremia Fri 27-Dec-24 15:29:55

Will be interesting to watch. Neither of them seem the type back down from an argument.

Wyllow3 Fri 27-Dec-24 15:37:39

NotSpaghetti

I agree. She shouldn't have commented.

Yes I agree. Very poor political judgement.

But FGT, although of course we talk about "nights out with the girls" and so on,

it really did pull me up when you said "silly girl" - professionally women have fought in the past so hard to be taken seriously, not infantilised and categorised as immature because they (we!) are female. (no, I'm not being OTT PC, its because of my own life events, one particularly so)

Galaxy Fri 27-Dec-24 15:38:51

I agree she should should have ignored it. Membership does not equal success however as Corbyn found out.

Galaxy Fri 27-Dec-24 15:39:13

Too many shoulds smile

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 27-Dec-24 15:41:42

The next election isn’t for nearly five years. Who knows what will happen in that time. Reform has five MPs, one of whom is always away cosying up to Musk and trump. I wish Tory supporters didn’t have such short memories.

spabbygirl Fri 27-Dec-24 15:48:53

KB could start a fight in a paper bag. She cannot resist responding to something she'd be much better off ignoring. Farage will respond as he likes the oxygen of free publicity so will twist it to his benefit.
Both of them are loathsome creatures who want are desperate to be PM and are best ignored

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 27-Dec-24 15:51:06

Apologies Wyllow for triggering you.
‘Silly girl’ was my shorthand way of saying ‘poor judgement by an inexperienced politician who ought to have known better’.

Wyllow3 Fri 27-Dec-24 16:01:08

Thank you FGT. It did really matter/does really matter for me.

Galaxy Fri 27-Dec-24 16:03:00

She could indeed start a fight in an empty room I quite like that in a person but I think she will have to learn to not be as reactive).

pascal30 Fri 27-Dec-24 16:10:32

That old saying sticks and stones is nonsense really.. words are very powerful

Casdon Fri 27-Dec-24 16:14:45

As Reform is still a limited company, people who join are not actually members of a political party in the same way that they are if they become members of other parties. The £25 a year ‘membership’ is more like a charity donation, because there are currently no membership rights, you can’t vote, so have no influence on what the company does. I think actually that Kemi Badenoch has a point.

Allira Fri 27-Dec-24 16:16:52

Casdon

As Reform is still a limited company, people who join are not actually members of a political party in the same way that they are if they become members of other parties. The £25 a year ‘membership’ is more like a charity donation, because there are currently no membership rights, you can’t vote, so have no influence on what the company does. I think actually that Kemi Badenoch has a point.

So t shouldn't be included in that list at all as it's not a political party.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 27-Dec-24 16:26:47

Isn’t Reform going through the process of changing into a proper political party? I imagine most folk who have donated £25 want to be a member for a reason.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 27-Dec-24 16:29:57

In September 2024, Farage said that he will be surrendering all of his shares in Reform UK. This means members will have more control over the party, such as being able to vote on a constitution and motions, and can remove Farage as leader if over 50% of members write to Reform UK chairman Zia Yusuf.[94]

Source: Wikipedia

Casdon Fri 27-Dec-24 16:33:02

He did say that FriedGreenTomatoes2. As it stands now though, it’s still a limited company. I presume on that basis that Kemi Badenoch has the moral high ground in challenging him.

NotSpaghetti Fri 27-Dec-24 16:33:36

No. They keep saying they will change.
They have started charging under 25s a tenner.
Apparently lots of people are filling in the incorrect year of birth to get this "deal".

twinnytwin Fri 27-Dec-24 16:42:51

Earlier this week GB News was running the story of Reform needing another 4,000 (or suchlike) to overtake the Tories in membership numbers. Obviously the encouragement has worked. The increase is not without manipulation IMO.

Bixiboo Fri 27-Dec-24 19:13:39

It’s interesting the number of young people who Farage said are joining Reform. I wonder if it’s because they are disillusioned with Labour and Conservatives.