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Sir Sadiq Khan! For services to what, exactly?

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Sarnia Tue 31-Dec-24 07:16:50

The New Year's Honour's List has Sadiq Khan being given a knighthood. I am sure that will sit well with the families of children killed as a result of London knife crime, spiralling on his watch.
Stephen Fry and Gareth Southgate also receive knighthoods.
There are some awards for the Post Office campaigners too and these are the people I like to see recognised although I wouldn't be upset to see the Honour's Lists being abolished altogether.

vegansrock Wed 01-Jan-25 15:54:12

But the polluting / non compliant vehicles have gone down- most people don’t want to pay more than they have to. Perhaps there will have to be more stringent measures to cut the total number of vehicles on the road and no doubt the Daily Mail will be up in arms about that as a war on motorists or some such

Anniebach Wed 01-Jan-25 15:49:26

Not did something right, Corbyn or Conservatives, !

Rosie51 Wed 01-Jan-25 15:24:11

Maremia

Voted in 3 times by the people of London. Must be doing something right.

The Conservatives were voted into power by the people of the UK for a span of 14 years so Must be doing something right. You agree they must have been doing something right?

Rosie51 Wed 01-Jan-25 15:20:09

GrannyGravy13

HousePlantQueen

Every year there is controversy over the honours list, every year there is the predictable articles from certain newspapers when someone who doesn't fit their model gets honoured. I was happy to see Gareth Southgate and Stephen Fry get their awards, and do think that Sadiq Khan deserves his; he does a great deal for London, some of it controversial of course, but unless we want London to be a grid locked, stinking, fume clogged city, some of his measures are necessary.

We send a minimum of two loaded vans into London five days a week, 50 weeks a year.

I can assure you that anywhere within the M25 (all of which now covered by ULEZ) is invariably grid locked . Central London roads are still stationary most of the day, and still extremely fume clogged.

Sir Khan hasn’t banned polluting vehicles, just put the charges up for them.

Sir Khan hasn’t banned polluting vehicles, just put the charges up for them. exactly! I also said this upthread. You can pollute and clog up the roads as long as you can afford to pay the ULEZ and congestion zone charges. If he (or any politician) truly wanted to abolish the pollution levels they would have banned non compliant vehicles from passing through.
Also interesting is that vehicles using one of the soon to be 3 east London and beyond river crossings will have to pay to do so, currently only the Dartford crossing is chargeable. Anyone using one of the many bridges west of the Blackwall Tunnel gets to cross free of charge.

Maremia Wed 01-Jan-25 15:16:59

Voted in 3 times by the people of London. Must be doing something right.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 01-Jan-25 14:46:37

HousePlantQueen

Every year there is controversy over the honours list, every year there is the predictable articles from certain newspapers when someone who doesn't fit their model gets honoured. I was happy to see Gareth Southgate and Stephen Fry get their awards, and do think that Sadiq Khan deserves his; he does a great deal for London, some of it controversial of course, but unless we want London to be a grid locked, stinking, fume clogged city, some of his measures are necessary.

We send a minimum of two loaded vans into London five days a week, 50 weeks a year.

I can assure you that anywhere within the M25 (all of which now covered by ULEZ) is invariably grid locked . Central London roads are still stationary most of the day, and still extremely fume clogged.

Sir Khan hasn’t banned polluting vehicles, just put the charges up for them.

Wyllow3 Wed 01-Jan-25 14:46:17

vegansrock

I’m not sure how Khan has “aloed London to be overrun”.
BTW he gets more vile racial abuse/ death threats to his family etc -than any other politician apart from Diane Abbott this is the reason he has security as does every single cabinet minister and former Prime Ministers.

👏 re the need for security.

"allowed to become over run?"

Can you explain, love0c?

Wyllow3 Wed 01-Jan-25 14:41:50

Anniebach

I think Stephen Fry so deserved his honour

Oh my, yes.

HousePlantQueen Wed 01-Jan-25 14:37:31

Every year there is controversy over the honours list, every year there is the predictable articles from certain newspapers when someone who doesn't fit their model gets honoured. I was happy to see Gareth Southgate and Stephen Fry get their awards, and do think that Sadiq Khan deserves his; he does a great deal for London, some of it controversial of course, but unless we want London to be a grid locked, stinking, fume clogged city, some of his measures are necessary.

Allira Wed 01-Jan-25 12:48:45

HousePlantQueen

Wyllow3

There are frequent demonstrations or other events in central London on whole numbers of issues - and the Police have to manage them all, whether it's the far right by the Cenotaph or the pro-palestinian marches or climate change activists or peaceful vigils or the Notting Hill Carnival.

And we've had, in the Metropolitan Police force, a rapist and murderer, a whole group of misogynist/racists "outed" not so long ago. A heck of a lot to manage, and I'm not surprised he's been voted back in

Don't forget the outraged farmers and their road clogging tractors!

Oh yes, those farmers, what a lot they are.
Clogging up the streets with their tractors, preventing ordinary folk from getting to the supermarket to buy their food which miraculously appears on the shelves.

vegansrock Wed 01-Jan-25 12:39:46

I’m not sure how Khan has “aloed London to be overrun”.
BTW he gets more vile racial abuse/ death threats to his family etc -than any other politician apart from Diane Abbott this is the reason he has security as does every single cabinet minister and former Prime Ministers.

Anniebach Wed 01-Jan-25 12:31:08

I think Stephen Fry so deserved his honour

Witzend Wed 01-Jan-25 12:22:50

I don’t feel strongly about Khan, but was pleased to see the knighthood for Gareth Southgate - and equally pleased that a certain other former footballer will not be able to call himself Sir.

love0c Wed 01-Jan-25 12:11:25

Khan has allowed and even encouraged London to become overrun. Hence, the crime! Yes, he is most definitely to blame.

HousePlantQueen Wed 01-Jan-25 11:05:07

Wyllow3

There are frequent demonstrations or other events in central London on whole numbers of issues - and the Police have to manage them all, whether it's the far right by the Cenotaph or the pro-palestinian marches or climate change activists or peaceful vigils or the Notting Hill Carnival.

And we've had, in the Metropolitan Police force, a rapist and murderer, a whole group of misogynist/racists "outed" not so long ago. A heck of a lot to manage, and I'm not surprised he's been voted back in

Don't forget the outraged farmers and their road clogging tractors!

Wyllow3 Wed 01-Jan-25 10:59:32

There are frequent demonstrations or other events in central London on whole numbers of issues - and the Police have to manage them all, whether it's the far right by the Cenotaph or the pro-palestinian marches or climate change activists or peaceful vigils or the Notting Hill Carnival.

And we've had, in the Metropolitan Police force, a rapist and murderer, a whole group of misogynist/racists "outed" not so long ago. A heck of a lot to manage, and I'm not surprised he's been voted back in

Jeanathome Wed 01-Jan-25 08:22:06

Most of it on the palestinian lot I would say

Who are these people and what did they get please?

HousePlantQueen Wed 01-Jan-25 02:02:12

Ilovecheese

I don't live in London and don't really support the honours system. But I do admire Sadiq Khan for being brave enough to put the health of children before the convenience of car drivers.

Hear hear! The front pages of the Daily Mail and The Telegraph on 31st December were vile.

HousePlantQueen Wed 01-Jan-25 01:59:40

theworriedwell

Hopefully no more children are dying because of pollution in London so that is good news. Children at primary school aren't going hungry as he found the money to feed them all, more good news. Well done Sadiq.

I am happier about Sadiq Khan spending money on primary school lunches than Johnson spending it on a mistress, water cannons or a bloody bridge. What short memories some have

Rosie51 Tue 31-Dec-24 22:36:54

Ilovecheese

I don't live in London and don't really support the honours system. But I do admire Sadiq Khan for being brave enough to put the health of children before the convenience of car drivers.

That will be the Sadiq Khan who is ferried around in a top of the range bullet proof Range Rover provided free of charge to him? The one who despite very strong and widespread local opposition insisted that the Silvertown Crossing should go ahead even though it will bring even more traffic to the access road it will share with the approach to the Blackwall Tunnel? Maybe the children of that area don't deserve their health to be protected. The ULEZ zone doesn't prohibit polluting vehicles, it says they can drive through providing they pay £12.50 per day for the privilege. If you can afford the charge then Sadiq doesn't mind your pollution.

The whole Honours thing is an absolute joke and should be scrapped. Spend 40 years seeing children safely across the road in all weathers and you might just get the very lowest award. Have a lovely life as a well paid entertainer and you qualify to be a Sir or Dame. Who was the last sewerage worker to be honoured for services to sanitation?

TakeThat7 Tue 31-Dec-24 22:03:24

I'd rather see honours given to people the general public vote for or stop the whole thing do we need all these sirs and dames What do they ever give back for the title Spend the money saved on the black hole if there really is one

Lomo123 Tue 31-Dec-24 21:41:25

OH bil got a gong for doing his civil servant job that loads of people do. Whole things a joke and needs scrapped. He did an interview in the local paper giving it the goodness I'm shocked, look at me, just a boy from a council house etc!!.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 31-Dec-24 21:39:24

theworriedwell

Hopefully no more children are dying because of pollution in London so that is good news. Children at primary school aren't going hungry as he found the money to feed them all, more good news. Well done Sadiq.

Just the knife crime then.

Freya5 Tue 31-Dec-24 21:34:14

theworriedwell

Sarnia

The New Year's Honour's List has Sadiq Khan being given a knighthood. I am sure that will sit well with the families of children killed as a result of London knife crime, spiralling on his watch.
Stephen Fry and Gareth Southgate also receive knighthoods.
There are some awards for the Post Office campaigners too and these are the people I like to see recognised although I wouldn't be upset to see the Honour's Lists being abolished altogether.

I think children getting killed as a result of knife crime has more to do with Tory cuts to policing than it has to do with the Mayor.

Think children killing
children is more to do with gang culture and the responsibility for the killings lies with the perpetrators. Khan is in charge of investing money into the Met. In Feb this year he said it would be £1.148 bn . Lot of good that did. Most of it on the palestinian lot I would say. He's also defended Islamic extremists.
That to me should be a no no for what he's been given. Disgusted.

Ilovecheese Tue 31-Dec-24 18:00:35

I suppose it is one up from having a title because of who your parents are.