Shouldn't our MPs (Farage in this case) know the UK doesn't have "Free Speech"

Farage does not agree with the UKs law on the Freedom of speech because it is contained within the HR Act. He is against that law.

Absolutely- myself and friends have written to our local MPs to challenge these US attacks on our democratic institutions from Musk Trump etc. it’s a global problem right now, and I feel that our MPs need to demand robust action to strengthen laws if need be.

Whitewavemark2

Farage does not agree with the UKs law on the Freedom of speech because it is contained within the HR Act. He is against that law.

His opinion doesn't change the law though Whitewavemark2. Only Parliament can do that. But of course, he is a very small cog in that wheel.

Of course not! But it explains why he disagrees with it.

Of course freedom of speech in Trumps world is beginning to look a tad shaky, and we are witnessing media outlets modifying their publications, news, etc because they don’t want to attract Trump’s wrath.

What price freedom of speech eh?

Parliamentary sovereignty - how quaint. Must be a slow news day.

Farage may only be a 'small cog' at the moment, but he gets an awful lot of air time to promote himself. He has a lot of influence, and should not be underestimated.

I read this morning that Musk is trying to intervene in the German election by proposing to support right wing parties and making public statements of the sort he has made about the UK. The German PM, when asked about it, replied 'don't feed the troll'.
What an unpleasant and revolting character Musk is and alarming in the potential for trouble he can brew up.

Who is do you think he is influencing Maremia?

Notagranyet24

I read this morning that Musk is trying to intervene in the German election by proposing to support right wing parties and making public statements of the sort he has made about the UK. The German PM, when asked about it, replied 'don't feed the troll'.
What an unpleasant and revolting character Musk is and alarming in the potential for trouble he can brew up.

You’re not wrong.
The good thing now tho is that Western democracies see him for who he is.I think the bit about not feeding the troll is exactly what all governments should do .No reacting angrily or trying to debate what he says.Ignore his X pronouncements.

Telegraph has called the AfD "Musks new plaything" today. There are "Tommy Robinsons" in the AfD however politically.

We need to carry on trying to build alliances in Europe!

I was glad to see that Starmer defended himself and Jess Phillips without mentioning Musk once. This disruptive man should be ignored.

AGAA4

I was glad to see that Starmer defended himself and Jess Phillips without mentioning Musk once. This disruptive man should be ignored.

Agreed.

I imagine politicians will ignore Musk but he will whip up support with his followers, and Jess Philips now has to have extra security in her daily life. No matter what our political opinions are no politician should fear for their safety or the safety of family members. And the murders of Jo Cox and David Amess show that fuelling certain people’s hatred can lead to heinous crimes.
Musk is a very dangerous man.

AGAA4

I was glad to see that Starmer defended himself and Jess Phillips without mentioning Musk once. This disruptive man should be ignored.

He should, but there are many riding on his coat tails.

I find that putting one sort of rape above others, as Kemi Badenoch has, sickening. Where would a women who was subject to her husbands warped views, as Gisèle Pelicot was, come in the the far-right, let's make even rape about immigrants, thinking?

@PoliticsNerd,
Sickening but sadly predictable. The fact is that rape is not the monopoly of immigrants coming to this country, as a woman I would not feel any safer alone at night if all this nation’s immigrants had disappeared. A rapist is just as likely to be an indigenous white man as a brown or black man, and religion doesn’t even come into it or immigrant status.
When it comes to rape it isn’t immigrants that are the problem it is men. Most women understand that.

Today Musk called on X

"On Monday, Musk started a poll asking X users to vote on whether "America should liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government".

Asked about the post, Sir Keir chose not to respond.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8xl4d3m81o

this article also has Starmers response to the whole musk-stirred up issue of gangs and his response to rape/abuse.

I am sickened by politicians, chiefly on the right it has to be said, using the suffering of children to attack their opponents. Farage is, and has always has been, a chancer jumping on the next bandwagon, preferably one which promoted his anti-migrants tropes, but senior members of the Tory party, such as Jenrick, and the party leader, Badenoch should know better.

Badenoch especially, as she was responsible for two years 2022 to 2024 on women and equalities in the government after the 2022 report was published and the failure to really tackle it.

Sorry, i realise that my PP does not cover the OP, but drags up things we have discussed on other threads.

Re; the post: I agree, too many people, such as Farage, who does know better, throw around expressions which are guaranteed to fan the flames. This is nothing knew, we all remember the 'bogus asylum seekers' and 'benefit cheats' type headlines. This is similar to the Reform party stirring up people about the Manchester airport incident when they knew perfectly well that all charges have to be considered by the CPS and that by making public comments before a trial they were jeopardising the actual process. Some of the public may not realise the procedure, but one has to assume that MPs do. On the assumption that Farage et al do know how the criminal process works, I can only assume that the performance they put on was deliberately inflammatory, and that they consider their supporters too stupid to know better.

I was glad to see that Starmer defended himself and Jess Phillips without mentioning Musk once. This disruptive man should be ignored

AGAA4 agreed!

I also like the way Starmer called out the MSM for ‘amplifying’ the lies and misinformation spewed out on X.

He spoke passionately, saying ‘a line has been crossed’ and he will continue to challenge the lies. Well said PM👏

Free speech and freedom of expression are one and the same.

Babs03, women commit sex abuse too, and men can be victims of rape as well as perpetrators. Let's not substitute one form of discrimination for another. The people who are responsible for rape are rapists. Not men as a group.

LizzieDrip

^I was glad to see that Starmer defended himself and Jess Phillips without mentioning Musk once. This disruptive man should be ignored^

AGAA4 agreed!

I also like the way Starmer called out the MSM for ‘amplifying’ the lies and misinformation spewed out on X.

He spoke passionately, saying ‘a line has been crossed’ and he will continue to challenge the lies. Well said PM👏

👏👏👏👏👏

On a thread on rape someone is saying think about the men.