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Democracy under threat

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TerriBull Mon 06-Jan-25 21:50:16

Oh I see you know that do you? I rather think that attitude hasn't moved on from "the basket of deplorables" that rather did for Hillary Clinton. I rather suspect those, lofty patronising attitudes possibly contribute to populism,

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 06-Jan-25 21:40:02

According to a learned friend of mine (Oxford DPhil) a lot of the electorate.

TerriBull Mon 06-Jan-25 21:37:20

Who has the education levels of age 9?

KateW19 Mon 06-Jan-25 21:32:32

Indeed I was and perfect point. An elected soon to be convicted president funded by an unelected billionaire calling the shots and seemingly obsessed with gaining power in our country, and for what? Ego? The banking industry? Let’s hope Reform remain on the edges and in the shadows where they belong

KateW19 Mon 06-Jan-25 21:08:43

Of course it’s also easier to get elected when you reduce education levels to age 9, but your way into power via a billionaire fascist and lie relentlessly on your own social media site, but yes, “democracy” is a lose term for that :D

WellsRose Mon 06-Jan-25 21:08:32

Galaxy

I think you will find that it was democracy that led to Trumps victory, it is always awful when people wont vote the way you want them to isnt it.

I thought the OP was talking about Musk. He isn't elected for anything.

KateW19 Mon 06-Jan-25 21:06:39

True, but they said that about Hitler, he won fair and square with the same populist propaganda tricks, and like Trump immediately u turned on his pledges. Men like them want power for powers sake, and we’d be wise to look to history for the hard lessons populist power grabbers teach us

Galaxy Mon 06-Jan-25 20:56:57

I think you will find that it was democracy that led to Trumps victory, it is always awful when people wont vote the way you want them to isnt it.

KateW19 Mon 06-Jan-25 20:22:23

Good to see Europe’s saner leaders and ministers uniting against the current baiting from across the pond. We can never underestimate the risk that we could lose our democracy and hard won freedoms. We came close in 1944, and the thought of my children losing the protections we have leaves me cold. From the Guardian earlier: “ A German government spokesperson did mention Musk by name, insisting his influence on voters was limited. “Normal people, sensible people, decent people are in a big majority in this country,” the spokesperson told a regular press conference in Berlin.

“We act as if Mr Musk’s Twitter statements could influence a country of 84 million people with untruths or half-truths or expressions of opinion,” the spokesperson added. “This is simply not the case.” Nevertheless the far right have 5 years to drag us into their gutter and no doubt they will do their utmost to unravel the world as we know it.