Democracy under threat

I think you will find that it was democracy that led to Trumps victory, it is always awful when people wont vote the way you want them to isnt it.

True, but they said that about Hitler, he won fair and square with the same populist propaganda tricks, and like Trump immediately u turned on his pledges. Men like them want power for powers sake, and we’d be wise to look to history for the hard lessons populist power grabbers teach us

Galaxy

I think you will find that it was democracy that led to Trumps victory, it is always awful when people wont vote the way you want them to isnt it.

I thought the OP was talking about Musk. He isn't elected for anything.

Of course it’s also easier to get elected when you reduce education levels to age 9, but your way into power via a billionaire fascist and lie relentlessly on your own social media site, but yes, “democracy” is a lose term for that :D

Indeed I was and perfect point. An elected soon to be convicted president funded by an unelected billionaire calling the shots and seemingly obsessed with gaining power in our country, and for what? Ego? The banking industry? Let’s hope Reform remain on the edges and in the shadows where they belong

Who has the education levels of age 9?

According to a learned friend of mine (Oxford DPhil) a lot of the electorate.

Oh I see you know that do you? I rather think that attitude hasn't moved on from "the basket of deplorables" that rather did for Hillary Clinton. I rather suspect those, lofty patronising attitudes possibly contribute to populism,

Hear, hear TerriBull. 👏
And you Galaxy!

Presumably learned lofty Oxford friend doesn't include herself as having a 9 year old's brain, well clearly that's not the case because she's a DrPhil. so its just the lumpen proletariat then, the ones that don't vote the way they should, stupid people. Should they even have the vote? maybe they should sit some sort of basic Key Stage 2 test at least to prove they can read the names of the candidates on the ballot paper, or heaven knows where they might stick their cross. It's really hard trying to get people with stunted intellect to vote properly a bit like corralling sheep

Oh come on now, these are the good guys dont you know, calling the working class thick is a sign of progressive thinking these days.

And it’s another ‘yes’ from me. Having a couple of nephews educated at Oxford University to higher degree level I can vouch for the fact that they really don’t know everything even if they think they do !

Crikey, that interesting thread soon turned nasty.

Every one of these threads this week remind me of the US in 2015.

I really hope that you all do come together against Musk. He is dangerous.

No it’s absolutely correct that the lower education attainment, the more likely a person would vote for far right groups, and likewise higher ed attainment vote left. One of the reasons right wing groups ban books in schools

How can a right wing group ban books in schools?

Ladyleftfieldlover

According to a learned friend of mine (Oxford DPhil) a lot of the electorate.

That doesn’t look well for an Oxford education if that’s what he thinks 🤦🏼‍♀️

Where have you been? It is the left who loves a bit of censorship these days, you might want to ask the feminists who has been behind the censorship of the last few years. It has been a role reversal that would have made me smile if it wasnt so awful.

What is it that appeals to you about Nigel Farage? Is it that he seems approachable? Or is it specific pledges that you feel would improve yours or your family’s lives?

HousePlantQueen

Crikey, that interesting thread soon turned nasty.

With good cause. Another sneary remark aimed at the great unwashed.

Who has said they support Farage, you seem to be making up your own argument.

My experience here is it is the extremist left groups who are educationally challenged just as much as, if not more than, the extreme right. I think the clue is the word ‘extreme’. The left ones seem to be a lot more violent for some reason which is something different these days. They are awful, totally intolerant.

Not bad ideas at all, after all our children’s health, wealth and security depend on having a functioning democracy and human rights, and populism relies on poor critical thinking to make rash decisions based on emotional responses rather than considered facts. It’s not us I worry about it’s our kids and grandkids

I think you’ll find they’ve developed pretty superior critical thinking skills and some sound common sense